I saw two HD10-250s and a couple R10's last night at Walmart for around 190 bucks. I was looking for the R15 at the time. (yes I believe it was the DRV because I saw the TIVO logo on the box.) Then again I was in a hurry so I may have to make a trip to verify it. I don't have a HD TV yet but am hoping by next summer or early fall I can join the fun. I have the phase three dish but our area just got locals this last December so I don't see our market getting Local HD for at least a few years. Our local NBC and FOX both offer HD over the air. I have ABC and CBS distance feeds currently also. Not sure if I could get the HD equivalent of those. I need to buy a new DVR for the basement tv soon so I was wondering if should just get the HD10-250 and use it anyways (without HD for now)? I would presume no matter when the MPEG format comes out I could still use the OTA portion of the TIVO. I also presume I could use it with my NFL ticket for another year or two before that changes to the new MPEG format. I also understand that Directv with update or compensate me when their new DVR- HD comes out some time next summer/fall/winter... Any comments, suggestions, feedback? Thanks!