Dropped HD service from DirecTv, almost dropped DTV altogether

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by hefe, Apr 3, 2010.

  1. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

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    As whitepelican noted there is just a $5 monthly fee, doesn't matter if a receiver is owned or leased. There are no extra fees just because a receiver is leased.

    What you see on your bill:
    Owned - Additional receiver fee
    Leased - Lease fee

    Same $5 fee. And your first receiver still has no monthly fee even if leased.
     
  2. joed32

    joed32 New Member

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    MRV isn't $3 yet except in the 4 "Pilot" markets. For the rest of us it's still free. When it comes out of "Beta" it will skyrocket up to $3.
     
  3. SRAINESS

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    MRV isnt actually that bad on the DTV receiver. Not sure if they will get away with the $3 fee though. Its much better the the FIOS implementation. Have both now. Trying to decide on which to keep. DTV just gave me 1 year free HD (no $10/month fee). FIOS DVR's are about $15/$20 (MultiRoom)Bought an actual TIVO for FIOS. Real happy except for the missing On Demand that FIOS offers. The Tivo Netfix/Blockbuster/Amazon deal is a joke.
    Saving shows to a pc is what I wanted it for. Does anyone know if the new DTV Tivo will have that option ?
     
  4. codespy

    codespy Go A-Rod (Packers)

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    Not.
     
  5. SRAINESS

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    Their still making it a DRM issue ???
     
  6. Enrique

    Enrique Well-Known Member

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    There is no news on if the New HD Tivo will have MRV like the HR2Xs. I'm not sure how codespy can say one way or the other as DirecTV or Tivo so far has said nothing.
     
  7. SRAINESS

    SRAINESS Member

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    I thought Codespy was replying about DTV offering Tivo Desktop. DTV in the past, and now, has always had an issue about saving shows to a PC.
     
  8. parzec

    parzec Wizard of Oz

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    Your experience reminds me of why I am so happy to be done with DirecTV -- dealing with their CSR's is always such a hassle. Glad you finally were able to talk some sense into one of their drones.
     
  9. shibby191

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    Sorta. The issue is that the program providers which sell their content to DirecTV (MPAA, Hollywood, whatever you want to call them) and they don't like or want their digital quality programs copied to a PC. Thus they put pressure on the multichannel content providers like DirecTV, Dish Network, etc. to make sure it doesn't happen. Since DirecTV doesn't want Hollywood to pull their PPV's off their service or jack the prices up like crazy or just plain make negotiations more painful then they already are they don't allow copying to PC. Much better to block that (and the so very few that would even want to do it) vs. (pun intended) having to pull a channel from all customers.

    Tivo, not being a content provider doesn't have to deal with this pressure. Plus they are a very small player in the industry.

    Tivo doesn't need to negotiate with Hollywood, DirecTV does. Thus DirecTV blocks attempts to copy programs to a PC while Tivo doesn't care.
     
  10. Scott D

    Scott D Active Member

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    Nowadays I can't tell if people are criticizing me for everything I say as if I'm not allowed my personal opinion.

    As for you, apology accepted. Sounds like I did jump the gun.:eek:
     
  11. Scott D

    Scott D Active Member

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    Find out about if you will be held for a 2 year commitment. They also forget to tell you that too. Since, if I understand you correctly, are updating your equipment to receive channels you're paying for, not upgrading to channels you don't receive. If this is the case, the 2 year commitment is void based on that DirecTV changed your programming package, not you. So therefore, they owe you a receiver at no charge except for monthly lease rentals of $5.00 or whatever it is and no contract.
     
  12. Bob_Newhart

    Bob_Newhart My Custom User Title

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    In my living room I still have my HR10-250 as a second receiver to my HR20. I mainly keep it around for several HD movies I have on there. I haven't watched anything on it lately but I'm assuming that the few HD channels that I could pick up on it are now gone? Will I still be able to watch HD programs that come in over the air (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox)? If I were to remove this DVR the only money I'd save would be the monthly receiver fee ($5.99, I believe) since I'd still pay the $10/month for HD for the HR20, correct?
     
  13. bigpuma

    bigpuma Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you can use it for HD programs received OTA. The mirror fee is $5 not $5.99 and yes that would be the only cost to keep it active.
     
  14. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

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    Oh, grow up! :D (sorry)
     
  15. codespy

    codespy Go A-Rod (Packers)

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    Exactly what I meant. Streaming is fine though.
     
  16. SRAINESS

    SRAINESS Member

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    Unfortunately that doesnt help me on the train, etc.... :(
     
  17. codespy

    codespy Go A-Rod (Packers)

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    Can't help you there.

    I have a deactivated 320gig HDVR2 in our Tahoe loaded with recordings with a Sam's Club 500w inverter with dual 9" widescreen LCD's for the kids when on the road. Doesn't skip over bumps, 100% reliable for over 3 years now.....much better option than multiple DVD's getting scratched up in the truck. I take the unit out and update programming once or twice a year (hence one mpeg2 SD non IRD unit active on account).

    AKA for us......DirecTV to go.
     
  18. bobbob20

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    How about if I purchased the receiver out-right and did not have a "leasing" fee? Would I be ahead after the 2 year contract than someone that did "lease" it? How about after 8 years? How much would I have paid towards the receiver for the "lease"? I use a series 1 Sony SAT-T60 (about an 8 year old DVR?) that records DirecTV SD. It works perfectly fine and records all my shows just the way I want. If I had been "leasing" it for 8 years or so, how much do you think I'd have into it for the "upfront" fee plus the yearly "lease" fee?

    Is the trick with "leasing" supposed to be upgrading? Should one "upgrade" when you "lease" a receiver? Has anyone done the math for "leasing" vs "non-leasing" for "upgrading" vs "not upgrading"?

    If one "leases" a receiver, and they make an new model, do you get charged extra if you want to "upgrade" to their latest model?
     
  19. samo

    samo New Member

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    No. You pay $5 lease fee for leased receiver and $0 mirroring fee. With purchased receiver you pay $0 lease fee and $5 mirror fee.
    $0 difference. If you own multiple receivers you pay $5 mirror fee for each additional receiver. If you lease you pay $5 lease fee for each additional receiver. First receiver is free in either case.
    Depends. Many long time users myself included got one or more HR2X for free. Ask DirecTV and you may get it for free. If you don't, the max it will cost is $200. Costco sells leased HR2X for $170, but if you need new antenna or switch to recieve HD, then it is cheaper to go with DirecTV.
    I honestly don't care about long term "upgrading" options. For now HR2X are top of the line. HR24 suppose to be available already in my market, but I'm not in a rush to get it because I don't have SWM dish and switch and I don't want to mess with changes needed to utilize new features. Everything works just perfect - if it aint broken ....
     
  20. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

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    I think you may have been the one that asked in another thread I answered and samo pretty much covered it.

    I'm not sure why there is confusion but the bottom line is this:
    Your first receiver is free, no monthly fee. Doesn't matter leased or owned.
    After that it's $5 a month. Period. Leased or owned you pay the same $5 fee which will appear as either "Lease fee" for leased or "Additional Receiver Fee" for owned.

    Again, same $5 a month fee no matter what.

    Up front cost for leasing is anywhere from $0 to at most $199 if for some reason you can't get a deal (very unlikely). To buy an HR2x will cost you $499 directly from DirecTV although you might find one on eBay for a bit less, but you better check with DirecTV first before buying it as it may actually be a leased receiver that the seller cannot sell.

    So let's say the only receiver you have now is that SD only T-60 and you want to replace it with an HD HR2x receiver. You call them up and you'll get the upgrade itself for free including new dish, switch, etc. as needed. You may end up paying a bit for the HR2x up front but being how long you've been with them I'm sure you can talk them into $99 at most and then offset it with credits.

    And your monthly is still the same...Zero, notta, nothing...if it remains your only receiver. If you keep your T-60 active then you'll pay $5 a month for the new receiver (again, leased or owned you'll be paying $5).

    And if it breaks they'll replace it for free. Your owned receiver breaks and you're on your own to replace it (unless you have the protection plan of course).

    Hope that helps.
     

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