Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Nov 8, 2008 #1921 of 10444
    richsadams

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    Agreed that it might be a better OEM drive if TiVo were to make some software adjustments. However I wouldn't hold my breath. Besides software adjustments that might have backwards compatibility issues, TiVo has a long, long term relationship (as in since day one) with WD and I doubt if they're anxious to make a wholesale change to a new partner. The newer WD GP "green" drives seem to be doing well (ours has been flawless for about a year now) so I could see them switching to one of those.

    So just THD's? I haven't kept up with all of the threads but IIRC there were one or two S3 users that didn't have problems. Whatever the cause/effect, keeping this particular Samsung drive out of the mix is probably best for now. I'd really like to know what the issue is though. Sounds like it's the hard drive's firmware, but then...:confused:

    Thanks for being a TiVo Pioneer in any case. :up:
     
  2. Nov 8, 2008 #1922 of 10444
    Dr_Diablo

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    I currently have the WD Hone edition external drive, 500 GB an wishn to upgrade to at least the 1 TB unit, will this be possible my merely unplugging the old drive then marry the newer drive to the Tivo unit?
     
  3. Nov 9, 2008 #1923 of 10444
    richsadams

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    Hmmm...the post you're quoting is over a year old and the WD My Book Home Edition didn't work with TiVo then or AFAIK won't work with them now (see Section III, #6 of the original post on this thread). Are you saying that you currently have one of those connected to your TiVo? Or do you have the "approved" WD My DVR Expander or something else?

    If you complete a normal internal hard drive upgrade on a Series3 or a TiVo HD, you would need to marry the eSATA drive at the same time. Just follow the directions in the first post or at mfslive.org.

    Or are you saying that you have a 500GB eSATA drive and want to upgrade to a 1TB eSATA drive? If that's the case and you have a Series3 you don't have to do anything special as long as you're using one of the recommended drives or drive/enclosure combos (see the first post on this thread). You'll need to divorce your existing drive (which means you will lose all of your recordings since you connected it)...

    Unplug TiVo
    Unplug and disconnect your eSATA drive
    Plug TiVo back in and follow the on-screen divorce instructions

    TiVo will take a little time to get things organized and then reboot. After it fully reboots into a normal state...

    Unplug TiVo
    Connect your new eSATA drive to TiVo and turn it on (give it 10 seconds or so to fully spin up)
    Plug TiVo back in and follow the on-screen instructions

    TiVo will re-organize things, reboot and you'll be back in business...with more real estate!

    NOTE: This will only work with TiVo Series3's. TiVo HD's require anything but the WD My DVR Expander to be married to the internal hard drive (again, see the first post for more info.)
     
  4. Nov 9, 2008 #1924 of 10444
    retired_guy

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    I've concluded that the "spin-up" time isn't the issue with Samsung 1TB HD103UI and posted some information as to why at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6832225&posted=1#post6832225

    Your comment about thanks for being a TiVo Pioneer reminds me of the old line about "What's the definition of Pioneers?. Answer: "People with arrows in their backs" >
     
  5. Nov 10, 2008 #1925 of 10444
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    *CLEARLY* storage space has gotten cheap! Check out this drive for $150 shipped W/ a 4 GB thumbdrive! lol

    http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SkuSearch_v2.asp?SCriteria=AA74438&afsrc=1

    Now the question is, has anyone replaced their internal HDD with something larger than 1 TB?
     
  6. Nov 10, 2008 #1926 of 10444
    richsadams

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    Got it...thanks. Interesting issue.

    BTW, I stopped counting arrows ages ago. ;)
     
  7. Nov 10, 2008 #1927 of 10444
    hunts

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    Did anyone see this deal by Mwave.com?
    http://www.mwave.com/mwave/SkuSearch_v2.asp?SCriteria=AA74438&afsrc=1

    a 1.5 TB HDD for $150 shipped!?! Does anyone know if that can go inside the series 3 Tivo by itself? I thought the limit of the S3 tivo was 1 TB in and 1 TB as an external drive.

    oh FYI, it also comes with a 4 GB flash drive too free of charge!
     
  8. Nov 10, 2008 #1928 of 10444
    GBL

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    What makes you say that? My oldest TiVos, from early 2000, came with Quantum drives. IIRC, Quantum was later bought out by Maxtor, which was acquired by Seagate.
     
  9. Nov 10, 2008 #1929 of 10444
    jlib

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    Unfortunately, nobody has reported full success with that drive. Stick with 1TB internal and external on the TiVo. It is still a pretty good deal (for your PC).
     
  10. Nov 11, 2008 #1930 of 10444
    bareyb

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    Count me in as a Hard Drive "upgrader". My Series 3 just took a major dump. GSOD and constant reboots. My options are to swap it for a refurb for $150.00 or buy a new drive. I just ordered a 1 TB kit from DVR Upgrade and it should be here tomorrow... I hope it works... I have two kids under the age of 8 and they aren't known for their "patience and understanding" with regard to technical issues that affect their TV viewing. :p

    How are you guys liking the Hitachi 1 TB drives?
     
  11. Nov 11, 2008 #1931 of 10444
    Lenonn

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    Slashdot article on the 1.5TB Seagate

    I think dodging this one is a good choice for now.
     
  12. Nov 13, 2008 #1932 of 10444
    bareyb

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    I have all but decided on getting a 1TB Cinemastar. Is this the best way to go? Any problems reported with these?
     
  13. Nov 13, 2008 #1933 of 10444
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    Why not save some money and get the deskstar and turn the aam down to 128 making it a cinemaster? Also you can do a but it now on ebay for 170 shipped on a 1tb wd green power already setup for the tivo which is much quieter then the hitachi. I had the hitachi in my bedroom and did not like the noise so I bought a wd green and it is much better. ( Some people might not hear the difference but I did) The hitachi is in my other hd tivo now in the living room where the sound is not a problem. I have not had the drives long enough to say which one will last longer but I think for me I would only but WD in the future. Also if you don't mind taking the extra step and setting up the drive yourself you could get the wd green for under $110. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
     
  14. Nov 13, 2008 #1934 of 10444
    bareyb

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    The drive I bought from DVR Upgrade was a Deskstar and it's plenty quiet but he did adjust it down to optimize for DVR use. Is the AAM the only difference from the Cinemastar?

    My only reservation is, I'm going to have to use a PC to do all this and I'm used to a Mac. I don't even know how to boot from a CD on a PC! So I'm a little leary of doing all the settings on a new drive myself. I asked the owner of DVR UPgrade if I could buy a Deskstar pre-configured with the AAM turned down and I'm still waiting to see if he's willing to do that and for how much.
     
  15. Nov 13, 2008 #1935 of 10444
    overthetop75

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    Don't get me wrong the deskstar is a great drive and with it set to 128 it is not much louder then the WD. I still think for someone not wanting to make changes themselves then a wd setup for the tivo with instructions for $170 is a good deal. If you still want to use a deskstar and they won't do it for you I have no problems setting it up for you for free.
     
  16. Nov 13, 2008 #1936 of 10444
    bareyb

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    I'm wanting to transfer the settings (Season Passes etc.) to the new drive before I install it. So that means I'm going to have to use MFSTools or something like it. I have downloaded the CD image from Hitachi's website. I'm going to see if Toast for the Mac can do a Disc Image for a PC. If it will then I should be okay to do the adjustments myself.

    My only question is, how do you boot from a CD on a PC running Vista? On a Mac you hold down the "C" key. I have no idea on a PC. How do you do it? :p
     
  17. Nov 13, 2008 #1937 of 10444
    overthetop75

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    When it starts to boot you will see on the bottom right(most machines) press f9 or some other key that it says for the boot menu. Then just select boot from cd. Most machines are already set to boot from a bootable cd so you might not even need to do anything besides boot with the cd in the drive. This will put you right into the hitachi program to set the aam. You can do the rest from inside of windows to maintain all of your settings.
     
  18. Nov 13, 2008 #1938 of 10444
    jlib

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    If it is a Dell do an F12 when the screen first comes on. Alternately, you can go into the BIOS setup program (usually F2 or Delete) and put the CD ahead of the hardrive in the boot sequence.
     
  19. Nov 13, 2008 #1939 of 10444
    jlib

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    As far as the TiVo is concerned, yes.
     
  20. Nov 14, 2008 #1940 of 10444
    bareyb

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    Cool. I got my wife's Dell to boot from the CD. So I'm ready to roll. I really am liking the Deskstar drives they use at DVR Upgrade so far. It is smokin' fast and very quiet. In fact, the slight fan noise from my external MX-1 enclosure is all I can hear now. It's nice to have snappy menus again. I guess my old drive had been going for a while. It was very slow compared to the new one. I am currently moving all the shows I haven't seen to "TiVo 2" in preparation for the new drive which will arrive on Tuesday. :up:
     

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