Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Sep 28, 2008 #1781 of 10482
    Teeps

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    Is this the guy?

    Fantom GreenDrive 1TB USB 2.0 and eSATA External Hard Drive - 2 Year Warranty! - GD1000EU

    http://www.buy.com/prod/fantom-gree...al-hard-drive-2-year/q/loc/101/208503758.html
     
  2. Sep 28, 2008 #1782 of 10482
    susani8

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  3. Sep 28, 2008 #1783 of 10482
    richsadams

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    D'oh! Hadn't thought about checking the System Information screen. :eek: It does indeed list the actual drive in a Fantom enclosure. Soooo...yes, as I suspected it is in fact a Western Digital WD10EACS GP "green" drive. Mystery solved.

    That's actually a very good price with the rebate then, cheaper than a bare drive and you get the eSATA enclosure to boot! Well done. :up:
     
  4. Sep 28, 2008 #1784 of 10482
    richsadams

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    Forgot to ask...did it come with an eSATA cable like the Fantom CSR told you? One of the buy.com reviews from Sept. 2nd said that it didn't come with one (which would impact the price by about an additional $10). TIA
     
  5. Sep 29, 2008 #1785 of 10482
    journeyman

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    No, I opened mine - USB cable yes, Esata cable, No.

    Ebay seller doing the recommended Siig cable here - comes out to $11.50 for one.

    BTW, setup on an original Series 3 (not the later Tivo HD model) went flawlessly. Recognized it, set it up, it's been running good for 3 days now.
     
  6. Sep 29, 2008 #1786 of 10482
    sariemerci

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    My 1TB Fantom did NOT come with the eSATA cable. Instead, it came with a USB cable and a little note to correcting the manual's references of 'the included eSATA cable' to say 'the eSATA cable'. I suspect that the CSR was reading the manual when he told me it came with one, so it's probably not his fault.... I just ran to the local computer store and bought a cable for $10. I've seen some on Amazon for $6. It's still an excellent deal even after you've bought a cable.

    Like susani, I added my drive to my Series 3 without a hitch. I now have 165 hours of HD recording, and thousands of hours of SD. How on earth will I ever pull myself away from the TV?

    The drive is not completely silent -- it makes a soft ticking noise when it writes -- but it's not loud or distracting. It doesn't seem to get too hot, but I'm keeping it ouside of my enclosure just to be safe. I have plenty of room behind the thing where it won't be seen and can have just a bit more air circulation... And now that we're "positive" that it's the good WD in a Fantom case, I couldn't be happier with my selection. Or the price -- I got it on buy.com's special ($150 - $20 rebate -$5 new customer coupon = $125).

    Go Fantom!
     
  7. Sep 29, 2008 #1787 of 10482
    richsadams

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    Congrats to the new Fantom Pioneers! Hopefully bkdtv will add this one to the "recommended" list of expansion drives.

    Based on your glowing recommendations I'm placing my order today! :up:
     
  8. Sep 29, 2008 #1788 of 10482
    GregComeLately

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    Well, I guess I'm going to be the Samsung HD103UI EcoGreen 1TB guinea pig. Since it's still unknown whether or not the latest incarnations of the WD GP drive will work in a S3 Tivo, I've opted for this new Samsung equivalent.

    It appears to be well received in last weeks Toms Hardware comparative review of Samsung 1TB drives, suggesting similar (and in some respects better) low heat, low energy consumption, low noise performance attributes when compared to the WD GP drives.

    Ordered it today via NewEgg for $119.99 delivered, plus another 1% ($3) off of that by going thru the livesearch engine. Yes, I could have gone for that other WD GP model which is supposedly geared specifically for use in DVRs, but from my readings here, other than ensuring compatibility with the S3, there was nothing feature-wise to be gained by going that route. And I'd rather pay $117 than $150-ish, especially if there's not likely to be any performance difference. Time will tell in terms of drive stability/longevity. Wish me luck! (for as long as I've been checking in on this thread, this will be my first Tivo upgrade ever! :eek:)
     
  9. Sep 29, 2008 #1789 of 10482
    richsadams

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    Nice...and a good price! :up: I've never used them, but I haven't seen anything negative about Samsung drives. Let us know the details, how quiet it is, if you decide to adjust the acoustics, how hot it gets, if it'll wash your car, etc. And of course...if it works! :p I bet it'll work just fine.

    Best of luck! :)
     
  10. Sep 30, 2008 #1790 of 10482
    GregComeLately

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    Thanks, Rich. Of course, I'll report back with some feedback at some point. I hope to get this thing installed before I leave for a two week "business trip" next week (hence, another reason for getting this thing done now as two weeks of program accumulation will overtax my original 250 gig drive).

    I'll likely report back after having spent some time with it in use upon my return. Or make that sooner, if I manage to screw something up with the install. :D
     
  11. Oct 1, 2008 #1791 of 10482
    jlib

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    It should work fine for you then. Thanks for being the pioneer on that model. Note that this is a drive that could really benefit from running the Hitachi Feature Tool to adjust the AAM head seek setting since it is a high-performance full blown 7200RPM drive hence much noisier and hotter than its cousin (at least according to the specs). I haven't heard one in person.
     
  12. Oct 1, 2008 #1792 of 10482
    bkdtv

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    I haven't been around the forum much lately, so the first post is in dire need of an update.

    Any other suggestions for changes?
     
  13. Oct 1, 2008 #1793 of 10482
    richsadams

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    Welcome back! :) AFAIK those were the only two requests, but someone here may think of something else.

    Thanks for taking the time...there are many folks here that appreciate your hard work. :up: :up: :up:
     
  14. Oct 1, 2008 #1794 of 10482
    More_Storage

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    I upgraded my internal drive to a 750GB using WinMFS without issue, but neglected to MfsSuperSize the drive.

    Does anyone have any experience with running MfsSuperSize on a drive after it is already in use?

    The goal is to pull the drive, run MfsSuperSize to get more space without effecting the recordings on the disk.

    Thanks in advance...
     
  15. Oct 1, 2008 #1795 of 10482
    dwit

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    Exactly, and as simple as your last statement:

    1. Connect drive to pc. Open winmfs.(Check mfsinfo for capacity info, if desired).
    2. Sselect "Supersize".

    3. You should get a "pop up" saying drive has been supersized.

    4. Check mfsinfo again to verify supersize capacity.

    This is simply the last step(that many forget) when doing a truncated backup/restore or a full mfscopy. It can be done later, at any time.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2008 #1796 of 10482
    lrhorer

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    I know that the Hitachi Deskstar 500G SATA drive will not work as a primary drive in a TiVo HD. I don't think it's on the list of drives kno9wn not to work.
     
  17. Oct 2, 2008 #1797 of 10482
    susani8

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    I haven't checked in for the past couple of days - sorry! But like the others said, my drive did not come with an eSata cord, I already had one from a defunct My DVR Expander (2 months past warrantee of course), so hook-up was immediate and easy. Best $130 I've spent in a while... I picked up a Cavalry 500 gb drive for my first s3 when the kickstart was first disclosed - and, though it continues to work like a champ, it is VERY noisy. It will also freeze up if I turn on the suggestions - it can't take constant writing/erasing. So, since I wanted to really test out the Fantom, I, of course, turned the suggestions on. I have 150 suggestions to date, it's recording almost constantly, and no glitches - if anything it's been quieter (either fewer of the clicking sounds, or I'm getting so used to it I don't hear it anymore), it's in my bedroom and the slight sound doesn't bother me at all. It's still only slightly warm to the touch. So far, testing is coming out positive!:up:
     
  18. Oct 2, 2008 #1798 of 10482
    dwit

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    Is that Cavalry drive a WD? If so, it possibly has a 3yr warranty. You can check it at the WD warranty support web site. Just enter the serial number on the bare drive label.
     
  19. Oct 2, 2008 #1799 of 10482
    Teeps

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    Based on info from this page, I bought a Fantom Drive. I connected it to my PC via the usb port to make sure it powers on and can read/write.
    According to the Device manager: there is a WD10EACS-65d6b0 hdd in the enclosure.
    And the Fantom Drive company is about 2 miles from my home!
     
  20. Oct 2, 2008 #1800 of 10482
    susani8

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    Hmmm - never thought about that - I just live with it. I'll check it out, thanks!
     

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