Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Sep 2, 2019 #10401 of 10440
    dougdingle

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    You can plug the TiVo drive into one of the unused bays on your machine, but be aware that Windows will offer to 'initialize' it for you. If you allow that, the drive will become useless in the TiVo. Refuse that offer.

    I don't know what sort of SATA cable is in the TiVo you have, but one end can obviously connect to the drive. If the other end can plug into one of your motherboard's SATA connectors (plus you'll need a power connection), you can use it.

    A SATA cable is pretty much a SATA cable if the manufacturer used standard parts (not everyone does).
     
  2. Sep 2, 2019 #10402 of 10440
    ThAbtO

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    The SATA cable from the Tivo is not a normal PC SATA cable, so no.
     
  3. Sep 6, 2019 #10403 of 10440
    stevenewhdd

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    Hmm, this is not the same cable? I cannot simply use the existing SATA cable with power from the TiVo HD and plug into that empty HDD bay?
     
  4. Sep 6, 2019 #10404 of 10440
    jmbach

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    The TiVo SATA cables are only about 3 inches in length. The end is that plug into the motherboard of the TiVo has two ends. One is a regular SATA end and the other is a 4 pin connector.
     
  5. Sep 7, 2019 #10405 of 10440
    stevenewhdd

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    Just completed the hard drive upgrade! It was successful. I used a WD 1TB Red HDD, and a dual HDD SATA dock. Thank you to everyone who helped!
     
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  6. Nov 8, 2019 #10406 of 10440
    SOGLAD

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    I know this is a very old post but expect this message if you try the Link above:

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    We can't find the page you're looking for.
     
  7. Nov 13, 2019 #10407 of 10440
    pacman314159

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    Can someone please PM me a link to an image for a TCD65800? need to replace my HDD, and was hoping to expand to 2TB. Thanks!
     
  8. Nov 13, 2019 #10408 of 10440
    ThAbtO

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    Sent.
     
  9. Mar 7, 2020 #10409 of 10440
    mameyer

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    I have a Series3 with an external my expander that was looking like one of the drives was failing. I was planning on doing an upgrade on the internal drive before it did fail- and it looked like the instructions on http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upgrade/ required me to unpair the external drive. The TIVO wouldn't finish unpairing it and now it is stuck on External Storage Missing bootloop.

    Any thoughts on what is the best and or quickest way to get to upgrading my drive on the series 3? Do i need to get unstuck from this boot loop before following the rest of the instructions for WINMFS? Do I need to acquire a clean image from a third party and skip the copy? I do realize I am losing my recordings, and that is fine.

    Thanks. Please let me know your thoughts.

    TIVO Series 3
    Software 11.0n.h1-...

    Mark
     
  10. Mar 7, 2020 #10410 of 10440
    ThAbtO

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    You would need to check/replace the capacitors in the power supply, it is common on these series to fail without warning.

    You would need to get a model-specific working image to restore to a new drive. It would also not need to unpair from the external and that would be separate issue unless you were to use your existing image.

    The model number is on the back label starting with TCD. If it is running, see the System Information, the 1st 3 digits of the Tivo Service number, the last 3 digits of the software version.
     
  11. Mar 7, 2020 #10411 of 10440
    mameyer

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    Its a model TCD648250B. Does anyone have a working image that they could message me? Is there a really good guide out there for restoring the TIVO from an image? Your help is appreciated.

    Mark
     
  12. Mar 7, 2020 #10412 of 10440
    ThAbtO

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    Sent.
     
  13. Mar 7, 2020 #10413 of 10440
    mameyer

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    Thank you!!
     
  14. Mar 29, 2020 #10414 of 10440
    erikfed

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    I'm trying to upgrade my tivo Series 3 HD to a 1TB HD (Hitachi HDT721010SLA360). I'm using a Win 10 PC and WinMFS 9.3g. I connect the Tivo drive and the Hitachi both via Serial ATA on the same cable from the MB and power cables from the power supply. When the computer boots up, the Hitachi has been assigned a drive letter (D) and the Tivo drive has not been assigned a letter and is not available as a volume. In Device Manager I can see all 3 of my drives are recognized and have been assigned Bus #'s. My solid state main computer boot drive is (0), the Tivo drive is (1) and the Hitachi is (2). I have changed WinMFS to run as administrator in the properties. When I run WinMFS and go to Select Drives, I check the "Show Mounted Drive" box and my Hitachi appears as #2. I select the Tivo #1 as Drive A, then click the "Select" Button. I then go to Tools > MFSCopy. My Tivo is listed as the Source drive but I have no options under Destination Drive? Only "None" in the drop down? What am I doing wrong? One last thing...If I select the Hitachi as the Source drive, the Tivo drive is now selectable as the Destination drive. Not sure if that helps, it doesn't help me.

    Sorry for the long post but I figured I'd try to give all the info I can and answer as many questions as possible up front.

    Any thoughts?
     
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  15. Mar 29, 2020 #10415 of 10440
    erikfed

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    ABOVE SOLVED: Finally got it to offer me my new drive as Destination. Not sure what did it but here's what I did. Re-downloaded WINMFS. Same version but can't remember if it was from a different source. This time when in Properties to Run as Adm administrator I also ran it in Compatibility Mode for Windows Vista. I am now running the Copy, fingers crossed if it finishes with no errors.
     
  16. Mar 29, 2020 #10416 of 10440
    ThAbtO

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    The drive should show up under the "Mounted drives" button in this case, or you can erase and remove all the partitions on that drive.

    Tivo drives should not be assigned a drive designation and not let Windows initialize them.
     
  17. Jul 17, 2020 #10417 of 10440
    BizarroTerl

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    I have two of the Tivo Premier with lifetime subscriptions. One appears to now have a bad HDD. It hangs at the powering up screen. I have a spare 1TB SSD.
    Can I copy the HDD from the good Premier to the SSD and install that in the Premier with the bad HDD? If that'll work what cloning software should I use?

    I don't care about any existing recording and 1TB of space is plenty for how we use the Tivos.
     
  18. Jul 17, 2020 #10418 of 10440
    Teeps

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    Post the exact model number of the tivo in question here.
    Some one will come along soon with a clean image.
    I used DvrBars to reimage the drive on my XL4.
    Dvr Backup And Restore Software for Windows (DvrBARS)
    Easy to do, even I got it right!
     
  19. Jul 17, 2020 #10419 of 10440
    jmbach

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    If they are the same TiVo model and drive size, then use a disk cloner. When you put the cloned drive in the problematic TiVo, you will need to do a clear and delete everything to marry the drive to the TiVo.

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  20. Jul 17, 2020 #10420 of 10440
    ThreeSoFar

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    If your TiVo was more than 1TB this will fail, is my guess. If it was less than 1TB it will likely work but you will not increase your recording capacity.

    MFSTools will take either drive as a source drive (it will attempt to recover your shows on the bad drive, this may or may not work) and copy it all to a larger drive, while at the same time adding a new partition to allow the larger space to be utilized. That used to be mfslive.org, but that seems to be dead? I do see a 2.0 version of MFStools here though (elsewhere in this same thread is probably more current information, it's been a long time since I've done/needed this):
    MFS Tools - Upgrading america one TiVo at a time
     

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