Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

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  1. Mar 14, 2019 #10381 of 10408
    mattack

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    yeah.. but is the supersize part part of the windows app or the Linux CD?
     
  2. Mar 14, 2019 #10382 of 10408
    ThAbtO

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    MFSTools on the CD. Amongst the various commands there, supersize, mfsadd, mfscopy.

    For WinMFS, its in the menus.
     
  3. Mar 14, 2019 #10383 of 10408
    jmbach

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    What steps did you do to put the image on the 3 TB in the Premiere.

    Supersize on MFSTools ISO takes away from reserved space for essentially TiVo ads and adds it to regular recording space.

    There was an issue with JMFS not working with large drives because of signed vs unsigned variables. This was corrected in a later release. If you used JMFS to create your image, then that may be why you do not have full recording space of the drive.
     
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  4. Mar 15, 2019 #10384 of 10408
    mattack

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    Unless I'm totally forgetting, which may be possible, I just put an unformatted drive in there and it did its thing.. IIRC, the Premiere 4 and Roamio and above will automatically format any blank drive to 3 TB.
     
  5. Mar 15, 2019 #10385 of 10408
    jmbach

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    Only the Roamio and Bolts will format the drives automatically. Premieres always need an image placed on it.
     
  6. Mar 15, 2019 #10386 of 10408
    mattack

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    oh, then I guess I did the conversion with mfcopy or whatever it's called.
     
  7. Mar 15, 2019 #10387 of 10408
    jmbach

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    mfscopy will copy and expand at the same time. So it should be at full capacity. You eke out a little more by supersizing it.
     
  8. Apr 19, 2019 #10388 of 10408
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  9. Aug 31, 2019 #10389 of 10408
    stevenewhdd

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    Hi there.

    Really new to this and need some help. Replacing original HDD on TiVo HD. Looks like WD is the best brand? Also I’ll need a HDD dock to plug into my windows computer to install OS from a program called winMFS which I can get from the internet archive. I’ve been searching these forums. My question is does the WD drive require any removal of software? I’m reading here some have software that needs to be removed. I’m specifically looking at the WD10EZRZ mentioned above.

    Is there anything I need to know from a newbie perspective? I really appreciate the help!
     
  10. Aug 31, 2019 #10390 of 10408
    ThreeSoFar

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    You don't say what model TiVo you have. Makes a difference on the upgrade process. The newest models, to include at least the Bolt and maybe one or two before that, will automatically go to the internet and download all the TiVo OS and do a fresh install if you put in an empty drive. You probably have an older one, is my guess.

    The upgrade will destroy/remove all data on the drive, no need to do that first.
     
  11. Aug 31, 2019 #10391 of 10408
    dougdingle

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    WD Red drives have performed well for most here, including me. I am not a big fan of the WD Blue drive you mentioned. I have found them to be loud and hot. The WD Red drives for a few dollars more are quiet, run cool, and are built for 24/7 use.

    Is the original drive still operational, or is it dead? If it's still operational, you could copy its image (and maybe even its recorded shows) to the new drive using winMFS (if it's really a TiVo HD model) or MFStools 3.32 if it's not. TiVo's newer than The TiVoHD model can't use winMFS.

    If it's dead, you'll have to get a basic image file for your particular TiVo model from someone (several people have them, and you can usually get someone to send you link to one).
     
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  12. Aug 31, 2019 #10392 of 10408
    stevenewhdd

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    Thank you for your reply! The TiVo HD model number is TCD652160.
     
  13. Aug 31, 2019 #10393 of 10408
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    The original drive is still 100% operational and does reboot occasionally so I think it is time to replace it. I can "back up" the drive and put it on the new HDD through a HDD dock, right? Also is there a need to remove software or firmware off of the new HDD from WD? Also, any specific WD Red drive you recommend? Trying to stay cost effective. Thanks!
     
  14. Aug 31, 2019 #10394 of 10408
    dougdingle

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    Be aware that occasional reboots can just as easily be caused by a failing power supply as a failing drive.

    The model you have can (I believe) use winMFS, which means you can probably use a dual dock to copy the old drive to the new one. Another option here on the forums is a Windows program called DVRbars which will do two step copies (old TiVo drive to your computer's drive to new TiVo drive).

    WD Red drives come in 1 to 12 TB sizes. I don't think your model TiVo supports anything bigger than 2TB (or maybe 3TB, sorry I don't remember). Buy the size you need for the amount of hours of storage you want.

    Do not buy a WD Red Pro drive - those are for something else, run hotter, are more expensive.

    Your other option is to buy a pre-configured drive off ebay or from Weaknees. It will boot right up, but your shows will be gone, and you'll have to remarry your cable card with the help of your cable supplier (unless you just use it for off air recording).
     
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    stevenewhdd

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    I replaced my power supply a few years back. I am going to see if I have a HDD dock, I think there are single docks and dual docks. I am assuming both will do the trick. From a YouTube video it looks like I can back up the old one, and then install that image on the new one. I do not care about any of the data on the HDD so I should be able to install with winMFS with no problem. I am considering a Seagate Barracuda as I have always have had good experiences with Seagate. The HD only supports 2TB so I will probably stick with 1 TB, trying to avoid preconfigured due to pricing, this doesn't seem too complex.

    Also - can you elaborate on "remarrying" cable card with my cable provider?
     
  17. Aug 31, 2019 #10397 of 10408
    ThAbtO

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    The WD10EZRZ is a green drive, no longer made, overpriced, out of warranty. You would also need to disable a couple of functions, Intellipark (use WDidle), PUIS (use HDAT). To do these, you must connect to the computer SATA port, no usb or dock.

    Recommended is WD Red WD10EFRX or max, WD20EFRX. Nothing to disable. Amazon has the 2TB for under $80.

    Be aware that if you are going to use it to record on able, it does not do well on MPEG4/SDV channels and cannot transfer them to PC/Tivo. Transfer/copy is all it can do, no streaming. There is no longer Netflix or YouTube.

    This is a Series 3 model which Tivo no longer supports and will not activate, but will continue to service guide on lifetime.

    It can handle OTA and cable at the same time, through its own coax inputs. It just records 2 channels, either 2 on cable or antenna, or 1 on both at the same time.
     
  18. Sep 1, 2019 #10398 of 10408
    V7Goose

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    dougdingle

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    Actually, WD10EZRZ is now the designation for the current WD Blue 'desktop' drive according to Newegg and Amazon. I bought one of those, a 4TB, about a year ago, and it was loud, hot, tended to vibrate. I returned it.
     
  20. Sep 2, 2019 #10400 of 10408
    stevenewhdd

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    Last question, I promise. I have a PC with 4 HDD bays. Can I use the existing SATA cable in the TiVo to connect it to one of my computers empty bays? I would plug in old, back up, unplug and then plug in new to image it. Does that sound about right?
     

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