Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jan 14, 2018 #10361 of 10408
    jmbach

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    Try MFSTools 3.2 and see if that would work for you. Use the command mfscopy -ai /dev/sdX /dev/sdY. Where X is the source drive and Y is the target drive.

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  2. Jan 27, 2018 #10362 of 10408
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  3. Jan 27, 2018 #10363 of 10408
    jmbach

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    I recommend the WD Red drives (not Pro). I have them in all my expanded TiVo models. FWIW, I think that is the overall concensus here.

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  4. Jan 27, 2018 #10364 of 10408
    Teeps

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    I replaced the drive in my xl4 3 years ago with a purple drive; it's lasted longer than the original WD green drive.
    Of course your experience may vary.
     
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  5. Jan 29, 2018 #10365 of 10408
    Justin.KY

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    Thanks All!!
     
  6. Mar 12, 2019 #10366 of 10408
    V7Goose

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    Been 10 years since I last touched my THD boxes for anything but watching - now have a bad upgraded drive I need to replace. I downloaded MFStools 3.3 and it seems to boot OK. I am going to try and use an old WD20EARS drive I had sitting in a box, but I cannot find my old copy of WDidle3. Searching these long threads is giving me a headache.

    Can someone give me a quick point to where I can get WDidle3? Thanx!
     
  7. Mar 12, 2019 #10367 of 10408
    V7Goose

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    Another quick question: From the posts I have seen, it looks like mfscopy -ai will copy the stock 160GB drive AND expand the new drive all the way out to 2T. Is this correct? Do I need to do anything else with the new expanded drive other than just put it in the THD and boot it up?

    It has been so long since I had to mess with these old boxes it seems like my brain has gone all to mush!
     
  8. Mar 12, 2019 #10368 of 10408
    dougdingle

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  9. Mar 12, 2019 #10369 of 10408
    unitron

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    It's on the Ultimate Boot CD

    as is the Western Digital long test you need to run on that drive before trusting it.

    Also, look into as little something called Power Up In Standby, or PUIS, just in case you find yourself needing to recognize the symptoms.

    Download the UBCD .iso file

    and burn it "as an image" to a CD-R
     
  10. Mar 12, 2019 #10370 of 10408
    unitron

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    If you used WinMFS the first time around and still have it on a PC, you can use it to copy the 160 to the 2TB. Just tell it "NO" when it offers to expand, check the 2TB with

    mfsinfo

    making sure you have a big old Apple Free partition, and then expand as a separate process using

    mfsadd



     
  11. Mar 12, 2019 #10371 of 10408
    unitron

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    If you used WinMFS the first time around and still have it on a PC, you can use it to copy the 160 to the 2TB. Just tell it "NO" when it offers to expand, check the 2TB with

    mfsinfo

    making sure you have a big old Apple Free partition, and then expand as a separate process using

    mfsadd



     
  12. Mar 12, 2019 #10372 of 10408
    unitron

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    If you used WinMFS the first time around and still have it on a PC, you can use it to copy the 160 to the 2TB. Just tell it "NO" when it offers to expand, check the 2TB with

    mfsinfo

    making sure you have a big old Apple Free partition, and then expand as a separate process using

    mfsadd



     
  13. Mar 12, 2019 #10373 of 10408
    unitron

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    If you used WinMFS the first time around and still have it on a PC, you can use it to copy the 160 to the 2TB. Just tell it "NO" when it offers to expand, check the 2TB with

    mfsinfo

    making sure you have a big old Apple Free partition, and then expand as a separate process using

    mfsadd



     
  14. Mar 12, 2019 #10374 of 10408
    jmbach

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    Yes that command is all you need to copy and expand the image.
     
  15. Mar 13, 2019 #10375 of 10408
    V7Goose

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    Thanx - I had that CD sitting on the shelf - never thought to look at it. Now I just gotta open up a PC and swap the drives to use it!

    Yes, I did use WinMFS long ago, and I even still have it, but I wanted to use updated tools if they were available. MFSTools 3.3 is what I will need if I want to mess with copying drives for my Bolts, so it made sense to me to use it for the S3 also.

    Thanx. I was really impressed on how totally simple it was to just download the MFSTools 3.3 iso and burn it with W10, then it booted flawlessly the first time, recognized both drives in a USB clone dock, and ran the copy without a hitch.

    Reading other posts I saw that there is apparently a Linux tool to check/set idle times available - it would have really been nice if the MFSTools CD had that tool on there too, but I'm not complaining. Unfortunately, it has been about 15 years since I messed with Linux, so I guess I'll just get buy with the WD tool.

    All y'all are truly a great resource for our community - the help and tools you provide are amazing. THANK YOU!
     
  16. Mar 13, 2019 #10376 of 10408
    V7Goose

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    Man, I had a hell of a time getting WDIdle3 run on that new drive! The Ultimate Boot CD worked, but only kinda . . .

    I first tried it on an old XP laptop that had a Fujitsu internal drive. The CD booted fine, and FreeDOS with WDIdle3 ran fine, but it could not find any USB-attached drives. No real surprise there, and it did see the Fujitsu drive correctly.

    Second, I went to a 10 year old Acer desktop that I use to record videos from my TiVos. I opened it up and disconnected the internal drive and put the WD20EARS in its place. The Ultimate Boot CD ran fine, and so did FreeDOS, but WDIdle3 could not se ANY drive connected to the Acer controlers (other utilities on the CD saw them just fine).

    Third, I pulled out an old hulk PC case from about 15 years ago - had an old Gigabyte MB in it, but no hard drive at all. The Ultimate Boot CD booted just fine on that one, but FreeDOS would hang before it could launch WDIdle3! Other utilities on the CD ran fine, and they could all see the drive, but I never got FreeDOS to initialize.

    Finally I dug out an old USB floppy drive and an emergency boot floppy - that brought up DOS on the old PC just fine, and I could then run WDIdle3 successfully from another floppy disk. Who'da thunk that I would have to resort to running floppy disks in 2019?? But I am glad I finally got it to run - that WD20EARS WAS set to idle at 8 seconds.

    The THD is now up and running with the "new" 10-year-old 2TB drive, and all seems good. One slightly odd thing I noticed - the old WD20EURS 2TB drive showed 318 HD hour capacity, but thie 2TB replacement only shows 287 HD hours. Not a big deal for that old box, but it did kinda surprise me. Did I need to run Supersize or some such thing from MFSTools after I did the MFScopy -ai?
     
  17. Mar 13, 2019 #10377 of 10408
    jmbach

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    Two things. One you have to run supersize on the drive and mfscopy creates a larger swap partition.
     
  18. Mar 14, 2019 #10378 of 10408
    V7Goose

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    Yup, Supersize was all it needed. That machine went from 287 HD hrs to 319 HD hrs by just typing 9 letters. Maybe that old Series 3 has another 10 years in it now? Thanx guys!
     
  19. Mar 14, 2019 #10379 of 10408
    mattack

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    Wait, is supersize what I use on a bigger drive put into a Premiere 4? I did that, and it formatted it to 3 TB.. I know I put a bigger drive in there, thinking I was going to expand it but never did.

    Is there a way I can do it without Windows? I thought I needed to set up a Windows machine to do it..
     
  20. Mar 14, 2019 #10380 of 10408
    ThAbtO

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    WinMFS (doesn't work on S4 and up), DVRBars are Windows applicaitons. MFSTools is a self-contained bootup CD or portable drive running Linux.
     

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