Drive Expansion and Drive Upgrade FAQ

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bkdtv, Oct 19, 2007.

  1. Jun 16, 2010 #6001 of 10465
    reubanks

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    I'm curious. Has anyone succeeded in putting a large (1.5-2TB) drive in the original Series3 (using the added capacity over 1.35TB) similar to the Mr. B. upgrade for the THD?

    I don't have one, but I was just wondering.

    Thanks, Randy
     
  2. Jun 16, 2010 #6002 of 10465
    ThreeSoFar

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    I have some lifetimed series 3 units, but no need for such an increase in volume. IN fact, I'd get rid of the Series 3 lifetimed units if I could get the right price.
     
  3. Jun 16, 2010 #6003 of 10465
    richsadams

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    Hi Randy. Unfortunately the hacked image to create 2TB drives is from a TiVo HDXL and won't work in a Series3, only TiVo HD's or HDXL's
     
  4. Jun 16, 2010 #6004 of 10465
    ThAbtO

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    Think its about as loud as a freight train. :D
     
  5. Jun 16, 2010 #6005 of 10465
    reubanks

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    Rich,

    I understand about the HDXL hack to the HD, but thought someone here might have come up with a equivalent hack for the Series3, possibly using a custom partition layout.

    I thought I saw a DVR_DUDE offering on eBay a while back... (I could be wrong.)

    Randy
     
  6. Jun 16, 2010 #6006 of 10465
    richsadams

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    Oh, got it. I've seen the Series3 2TB drives on ebay but I've never seen any kind of hack we could use show up here...a closely guarded secret I suspect. Frankly I was really surprised to see the one for the THD appear. I sold my THD, but still have my S3. I'd take a whack at the 2TB hack if it were available too.
     
  7. Jun 17, 2010 #6007 of 10465
    MikeAndrews

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    Thanks for the tip. I checked. You're not wrong. It's a Hitachi.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/TiVo-Series-3-T...ultDomain_0&hash=item3a5a3cea8a#ht_4098wt_913

    Just was I was building my maxed-out S3 to be 2 x 1.5TB.

    I might blow the money to get one of these and sell my new 1.5TB drive.

    Can you still add an (1.5TB?) external when you have a 2TB internal?
     
  8. Jun 17, 2010 #6008 of 10465
    JimboG

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    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Huge thanks to richsadams and bkdtv for their help on this invaluable thread. Here is my recent (ultimately successful) experience upgrading my Series 3 to 1.35 TB usable.

    I bought a WD1500EARS dated March 3, 2010 from a local Fry's electronics for $110 plus tax last week. I could have gotten the same drive online for about $90-95, but I wanted to be able to return it easily if things didn't work out. Tried to copy my original hard drive to the new 1.5 TB, but I couldn't get past the Welcome! Powering Up screen. Looks like I'll need wdidle3.exe .

    Well, there are several versions of wdidle3.exe floating around out there. All of them require a true boot into DOS. Windows 7 64-bit does not like DOS. Much trouble and hilarity ensues trying to create a DOS boot drive on a USB flash drive, trying to burn a DOS boot CD, updating the BIOS for my HP, changing the BIOS boot order and priority, reflashing the BIOS, frying the BIOS, and ultimately dealing with HP tech support in India and sending my main computer back to repair or replace the motherboard.:thumbsdown::mad::thumbsdown:

    If you want to save a lot of trouble and frustration, don't re-write your BIOS with the same image more than once. I ended up using fdoem to create a free DOS boot disk and add wdidle.exe into the .ISO. Took longer than it should, but I finally ran wdidle.exe /D and turned off the Intellipark "feature" on my 1.5 TB Western Digital caviar green drive. Once I had the right DOS boot disk, changing the drive park time literally took about 15 seconds.:D

    Now I booted up my new hard drive and found that I had 213 hours of HD and over 1800 hours of SD. Better still, all of the recordings that I copied from my original S3 hard drive were still on the new 1.5 TB drive.:up::up::up:

    Prices have come way down, storage capacity has gone up. It really isn't too hard to upgrade your Tivo's internal hard drive if you read all of the instructions before starting and then follow them to the letter. Just don't be stupid like me and fry your computer's BIOS in the meantime.:rolleyes:
     
  9. Jun 17, 2010 #6009 of 10465
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    Just curious, did you have the drives installed as emulated IDE when you attempted to adjust the AAM settings? From what I've read, AAM cannot be altered when the drive is connected in SATA/AHCI/RAID modes. Not sure if this is with all drives, or just the Hitachis, but it may be worth the effort to go back and try this again in IDE mode, if your system will allow that.

    EDIT: I looked into it more, and I guess the issue with adjusting AAM is when you have ACHI enabled which may or may not be automatic when using a RAID controller. Bottom line, I'd go back and look at your MB configuration.
     
  10. Jun 17, 2010 #6010 of 10465
    reubanks

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    I just checked everything in BIOS and it looks good. I tried HFT 2.11 again and it said that AAM adjustment is not supported.

    I swapped the 2TB out with a different Hitachi drive (80GB) and I can adjust that one, same with a WD 160GB and a Maxtor 160GB.

    Randy
     
  11. Jun 17, 2010 #6011 of 10465
    billbillw

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    That's a bummer. I received a new HD31000 and was able to turn on AAM and set it to 128 using HDDScan. It was made in Feb 2010. Just baked my Cake and I'm about to install and (cross fingers) run the initial setup.
     
  12. Jun 18, 2010 #6012 of 10465
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    Success! The new Hitachi drive fixed my ailing Series 3. In addition, I now have 144 hours of HD recording ability! Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! I find the Hitachi's sound level to be totally acceptable (at least with AAM set to 128).
     
  13. Jun 18, 2010 #6013 of 10465
    wolverine9827

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    LOOOONG time lurker (from WAY back when I upgraded my S2 using the trusty rusty Hinsdale doc - those were the days! :) )

    I have since retired the S2 (ok, it died gracefully) and moved up to a S3 HD during a promo deal that Tivo was running a few years back.... LOVE this box.
    And now I'm looking to do the dirty again with this bad boy.

    I'm looking to put a 1.5TB drive in to use the max possible internally... and I WAS leaning towards the Hitachi since I only have a laptop to use for the mfstools so I wouldn't be able to run wdidle for the WD's. With all the latest info all the great pioneers here have shared.... I'm not so sure of which way to go anymore.... With Hitachi engineers obviously smoking some form of controlled substance and deciding to disable AAM in the newest drives AND it seems the latest WD's combined with 11.0g makes the intellipark a moot point - I'm not only stuck not knowing which way to lean but don't even know what fence to lean on! Seagates have never cut it, Sammy's seem to give everyone here heartburn.... and that's about it for the main HD choices. WD, Hitachi, Seagate, and Samsung. Fujitsu seems to have given up on the HD market and Toshiba only seems to sell external drives in the 1TB+ size range (and they probably put WD's or Seagates inside!)

    For 1.5TB, newegg really ties to promote Seagate and Samsung... and Hitachi's 1.5TB isn't even listed.... weird....

    Guess I'll hang on for a little and wait for more info on the latest WD upgrade results. From what I have gathered so far it looks like the latest 15EVDS is the way to go as long as it was born after May '10....

    Keep on keepin' on.... been here forever and this is only my 5th post! LOL
     
  14. Jun 18, 2010 #6014 of 10465
    dcstager

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    In part 29 of the FAQ there is a link to download a bootable CD image to fix the WD green drives for use as external drives. Just thought I'd tip anyone who might think about downloading it that a particularly nasty browser hijack malware comes with this download and to be very cautious. If anyone has the image and can provide a safe link to download it, I think the FAQ should be changed to point to a safe link. The existing link is not safe to use.
     
  15. Jun 18, 2010 #6015 of 10465
    ThreeSoFar

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    ANy details on this? What OS it works against or doesn't, for instance?
     
  16. Jun 18, 2010 #6016 of 10465
    dcstager

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    It happened to me downloading with Firefox 3 on XP but it totally affected IE 8 as well. You go to download the file at the link and your system freezes up for a bit then the file downloads. Apparently the site re-writes your security settings and hijacks your browser settings. You get a window you can't close that keeps popping back up and you can't search at google without getting redirected. You can't got to windows update either. The hijack seems to have made a lot of effort to prevent you from removing it.

    I'm on an old portable now using Ubuntu now trying to get software and figuring out how to get rid of it. Regular malware and ant-virus scans are ineffective so far. Don't go there with any system using any browser. My system is useless and I still don't know exactly what to do.
     
  17. Jun 18, 2010 #6017 of 10465
    ThreeSoFar

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    If I went there (I forget where I got my wd3idle), it was with my Mac. Don't recall anything odd...
     
  18. Jun 18, 2010 #6018 of 10465
    richsadams

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    I know a number of folks here have been using that file for several months w/o any problems. Is there any chance the Malware or virus came from somewhere else...a coincidence?

    If not, can you please PM bkdtv and let him know what happened? If something's wrong he needs to take the link down immediately. TIA!

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/private.php?do=newpm&u=39640
     
  19. Jun 18, 2010 #6019 of 10465
    hmm52

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    FWIW I had no problem with the link last week.
     
  20. Jun 18, 2010 #6020 of 10465
    reubanks

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    I just checked this and it seems SendSpace is hosting a bunch of REALLY annoying popunder/popup adverts. One or more of these may be infected.

    I didn't get any viruses or even get an alert. (The machine is pretty locked down for that sort of thing), but I killed the job pretty quick.

    Randy
     

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