downloading copy protected shows

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by DrNorm, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    The original poster was trying to get copy protected video off a Series 3. I don't think you can use the TiVo app and a Stream to down load content from a Series 3 to a tablet or phone.
     
  2. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    You are correct. The only thing you can do with protected recordings that are on an S3 is play them on that TiVo.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'm pretty sure they added protected downloading to the Android app a while back.

    The biggest caveat to doung this is that it deletes the original from the TiVo and there is no way to transfer it back if you decide you want to watch it on the big screen instead.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah I just checked on my Samsung tablet and you can download protected shows just like on my iPad. (i.e. little check box warning the show will be deleted from the TiVo)
     
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  5. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    :oops: I actually checked before I posted but forgot that I had WiFi turned off on my phone. Once I enabled it, I did get the download option.
     
  6. UCLABB

    UCLABB Well-Known Member

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    Or a TiVo that streams like my Roamio Plus and others.
     
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  7. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    It can stream because it has integral Stream h/w.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The Bolt uses it's Broadcom chip to do streaming. It does not have the same internal Stream hardware that the Roamio Plus/Pro had.
     
  9. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    You're understood, but makes sense to have the clarification that it can be built-in Stream/Stream-like technology.
     
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  10. Dajad

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    I don’t understand much of this thread. I have/ had a Tivo S3. I had hundreds of OTA shows on it. When I moved to my Bolt last year I moved every show to the Bolt without a hitch. And with the media access key there are several different programs that will strip DRM of shows transferred to the PC (just google it)

    I think this thread has assumed cablecard tivo users only. For us broadcast only Tivo users everything the original poster wanted to do is trivially possible

    ...Dale
     
  11. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    No one has been assuming anything. The initial post of this thread specifically asked about transferring "copy protected" recordings.
     
  12. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Right.

    I think Dale may be confusing encrypted TiVo recordings (which can be decrypted via various utilities provided the MAK) and copy-protected content as flagged by the signal source. Copy protection blocks the ability to download or transfer a show off the original TiVo on which it was recorded; the best you can do is stream it, as allowed.

    And, yeah, I'm not aware of any OTA antenna content flagged as copy-protected, so all OTA content has been copy-freely in my experience. At the other end of the spectrum lies, well, Spectrum cable TV customers.
     
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  13. Dan203

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    It's against the law to copy protect OTA broadcasts, so there isn't even a standard for that and cable companies aren't allowed to encrypt them when they re-transmit. Everything else on cable is up to the discretion of the cable company. Time Warner was the worst offender. They copy protected everything except the locals. When Charter bought them they didn't seem to change that policy in those areas (yet), but in other Charter areas they're much more lax only flagging premium channels.
     
  14. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if the FCC ever bothered to just rescind the rule, but most of the major players got waivers allowing them to encrypt everything, including locals, years ago.
     
  15. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Wondering if Dan meant to say aren't allowed to copy protect them when they re-transmit as you are right that Comcast certainly was allowed to (and did) encrypt OTA broadcast channels a few years ago.

    Scott
     
  16. Dan203

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    I did. I meant copy protect, not encrypt, sorry. It's so easy to mix those up even for someone that knows the difference. :eek:
     
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  17. samccfl99

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    I do not understand why they never allowed copying of protected recordings from one tivo on your system to another. When I got the used LS XL4, it used the same key as my Roamio Pro always had. Still encrypted and not going anywhere. It's a pain. I can't move those recordings off my RP to the XL4. Yes, I guess it's a law. I don't care much for stupid laws...:rolleyes:;):D
     
  18. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    LOL. Who does? Should we have a poll on "I like stupid laws"? :D
     
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  19. idksmy

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    What is 'stupid' is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  20. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Da.
     

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