downloading copy protected shows

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  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yes I'm referring to protecting the recordings via the CCI byte. Encrypting them only effects whether or not a CableCARD is require to tune them. With TiVo a CableCARD is always required for the channel mapping anyway, so it doesn't really matter if they're encrypted. The CCI byte is what effects transferring recordings or streaming them outside the home.
     
  2. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    When you say activate it, do you mean connect it etc? If you are referring to TiVo activation, you don't need to activate a TiVo to watch stored content and you can't activate S3/HD TiVo's any more (non-lifetime).

    Scott
     
  3. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    TiVo Desktop still works to transfer shows to and from S3's with pulls at least for non-copyprotected content?

    I know that for people who bought Desktop Plus that auto-transfers stopped working due to the sign-in issues but that was for all TiVo's and not just S3's.

    Why do you think it was "deactivated"?

    Scott
     
  4. jcthorne

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    There is one more method to get these recordings off in full resolution. Via a Slingbox and kmttg.
     
  5. dianebrat

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    But if it's an S3/TivoHD that they let monthly service lapse, then you indeed cannot reactivate it and not active means no networking capability.
     
  6. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I focused on the part of her sentence which was "just to see it again" and skipped over the move part. :)

    Scott
     
  7. lpwcomp

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    For Mpeg2 recordings, yes. For H.264(MP4), no. The S3 does not support Transport Stream/TD Fast transfers, which are required for H.264 content.
     
  8. lew

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    Tivo HD to Roamio transfers are not currently supported, bug in the new software.
     
  9. gonzotek

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    That was my first thought too.. You can get a certified refurbished Slingbox 350 for <$60 on Amazon. It can take the component output from the S3 tivo and encode it to h.264 that kmttg can then save (there's a bit of setup work to get this functionality, but I believe it's all documented at kmttg's website). Not sure about the resolution, it might be limited to 720 and below (but if this is the only method to archive something unique and unlikely to re-air, it might be acceptable enough).
     
  10. buccobruce

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    I just got upgraded to 20.6.3, tried to xfer from TiVo HD, reports it can't communicate with it in spite of multiple reboots. Have you gotten a ticket from TiVo?

    bb
     
  11. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Good point for the HD models!

    Scott
     
  12. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

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    Reported via online chat.
     
  13. mattack

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    So technically, that's not full resolution, right? Since you're still reencoding it...
     
  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Resolution refers to the pixels. If the source is 1920x1080 and the output is 1920x1080 it's still full resolution.

    Recoding isn't that bad as long as the bitrate is is sufficient. Trust me everything you watch has been recoded at least a half dozen times by the time it gets to you anyway.
     
  15. Wil

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    Words to remember for the obsessive, like me, continually re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
     
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  16. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

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    While I agree with Dan's comment in general (and I absolutely acknowledge that he knows WAY more about this than I do), I will still offer a couple of caveats. First, recoding does not HAVE to be bad, but it CAN be - poor software or improper configuration settings can absolutely introduce video problems, no matter how many pixels remain.

    Secondly, once some content is lost, it cannot be regained, so if somewhere along the line a video is taken down to 720 or less, and then recoded back to 1080, it will NOT be full resolution, even though it still says 1980x1020. I know that is obvious, but just wanted to mention the whole chain of custody thing needs to be followed instead of just looking at the stats on the file in hand. Same thing if a progressive recording is recoded to interlaced, then back to progressive.
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There are some special cases where this isn't true. In the case of DVDs a movie is converted from 24fps progressive to 29.97 interlaced used a method called telecine. Telecine uses a very specfic pattern to create the interlacing and it can actually be reversed. This is referred to as reverse telecine or 3:2 pulldown depending on the software/device you're using.

    This also applies to most 1080i content as well, but because broadcasters recode and insert ads it's nearly impossible to get a clean reverse telecine. I do have one customer who meticulously cuts his files on exact frames to insure cadence and a clean reverse telecine, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got a LOT of time and patience.
     
  18. dnissen

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    I know i'm a little late, but you can download it to the TiVo app on any Tablet or phone that has the app. I do this to my iPad.
     
  19. lpwcomp

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    Only if you have a Stream.
     
  20. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Edit: And only to an iPhone/iPad. The Android app won't do it.
     

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