downgrading the bolt

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by vascott1, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. lujan

    lujan Active Member

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    I downgraded for this reason as well. They should make it easier to use and not harder.
     
  2. Ipecactus

    Ipecactus New Member

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    I find this in a lot of software these days. They lose experienced people, new programmers get in and don't understand or use the product and have their own ideas about how things should work and then they charge forward, eventually learning the lessons that were learned by prior programmers a decade before. But until they learn these lessons, we all suffer.

    I really get the feeling that no usability studies were done. I used to be able to put anyone in front of the Tivo and hand them the remote and they would be able to use it with no issues. I simply won't do that with a Bolt. That would be torturous.
     
  3. etchu tasinga

    etchu tasinga New Member

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    i just had my tivo bolt 500gb replaced because the harddrive failed, i am trying to downgrade from hydra because i cant stand it and i am following the instructions and it is not working, did they change it?
     
  4. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    No instructions should be the same. Have you tried placing your remote in IR mode (I've seen that mentioned)?

    Scott
     
  5. etchu tasinga

    etchu tasinga New Member

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    I tried putting my remote in IR mode by holding the Tivo button and the c button at the same time, still nothing
     
  6. Tony_T

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    When you received your replacement Bolt, did you get a new remote? Maybe the remote is not paired to the Bolt? (shouldn't matter, because you would then be in IR mode, but worth a try)
     
  7. etchu tasinga

    etchu tasinga New Member

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    Yea it came with a new remote i tried that as well, I have tried the remotes from my roamios and even old tv remotes i have laying around, its all the same, i go to the repeated guided step page, press thumbs down twice, rewind twice and then select and nothing happens. I am currently running a guided setup after clearing everything again and I will give TIVO a call, I can't figure out why it will not downgrade, honestly with hydra the unit is a brick, that interface is terrible haha
     
  8. Tony_T

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    Try a global reset of the Remote, then pair, then IR mode (see instructions in the article I posted to you in the other thread).

    I've only been a Tivo user for about a year, so I just went to Hydra, and can't compare, so I won't comment other than to say that I spend about 99% watching recored shows and 1% in the interface.

    The problem with downgrading is that recored shows are lost, but since you have no recored shows on the Bolt replacement, you should at least consider giving Hydra another try at this time.
     
  9. etchu tasinga

    etchu tasinga New Member

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    i tried for some time on one of my roamios but it was too confusing and my wife complained so much about it, I've been using the tivos for about 15 years so i am stuck on the old interface, I am currently on the phone with TIVO customer services, hopefully they can help, thank you i appreciate the tips you provided me
     
  10. Tony_T

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    I edited my post, so in case you didn't see this: Try a global reset of the Remote, then pair, then IR mode (see instructions in the article I posted to you in the other thread).
     
  11. krkaufman

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    Just want to confirm that you successfully put the remote into IR mode. The above statement indicates the attempt was made but the result is ambiguous. After toggling to IR mode did the LED only flash red, and you were able to control the BOLT?
     
  12. Rose4uKY

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    I've had Tivos since the 1st one came out early 2000 something and now have the Roamio. We are getting a 4K Smart TV and I am trying to decide on whether to get the Bolt or not had a lot of bad reviews on Amazon. But I have heard lots of people say they hate Hydra and Tivo offered me a discounted price on the Bolt 6 tuner 3TB and said I could downgrade to the old interface so I am guessing if I got one and did that I would do it before I transferred my recordings to the new box. I am just trying to decide if we really need it since the smart TV we are getting and the 4K Roku will have streaming services to watch in 4K most recorded shows won't be in 4K anyway right?
     
  13. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Duplicate post.
     
  14. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Replied to same question in parallel thread, >here<.
     
  15. Another oViT Guy

    Another oViT Guy New Member

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    I have a TiVo Bolt VOX that came with the new software. I am a long time user of TiVos and love many things about then but this new software? I loathe it.
    Before I downgrade my unit. Does the downgrade restore the following?
    1. The back button takes you back through the navigation tree? (The new software require hitting the TiVo button and doing top-down navigation every time - there is no back button) [This annoys me every time I use the TiVo because it breaks functionality.]
    2. Are the thumbs up/down restored so they inform the suggestions? (The new software disables the thumbs buttons so they do nothing and you have no way to influence the suggestions.)
    3. TiVo Desktop download functionality? (The new software breaks TiVo Desktop and when I inquired TiVo told me they have no intention of restoring it) [I know I can use PyTiVo to work around this, but it is manual and does not download in the background.]

    I have some more downloads to do and need to write down my Season Passes so I can put them back when I'm done. Ad then I'm ready to go!

    I will post my experience here when done.

    EDIT: Down grade in progress.

    The process may have changed a little. The Repeat Guided Setup option is under the Help menu.

    I pressed thumbs down twice, then on pressing rewind (the button to the left of pause) twice I didn't have to press any other key, I was transported to a menu that offered to downgrade. That menu asked for another three thumbs down and an ENTER key.

    I was rewarded with a screen showing me a downgrade message and a spinning wait cursor.

    I could not use my Bolt remote, I had to use my old remote. I've read in other places that you must be in IR mode for it to work and that is probably what I ran into with my old remote working by default. I've read that you can put the new remote into IR only mode.

    I have opted not to use kmttg to save and restore my settings. I will be sad to have to repeat the channel list filtering but TiVo already destroyed my thumbs lists and my Season Pass list needs to be trimmed anyway.

    EDIT 2: Success.
    I have a couple of my Season Passes already recording.
    TiVo Desktop works again!!
     
    Last edited: Nov 26, 2019
  16. kpeters59

    kpeters59 Well-Known Member

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    It will be (mostly) as you remember it.

    You can backup/restore your OnePasses, Thumbs and Channels with KMTTG to make the new setup way more seamless.

    -KP
     

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