Does your TIVO get channel 1115(Newsmax TV) ?

this isn't an hd issue, it's a iptv issue - it's not a qam channel, so it can't be viewed on tivo, it requires an x1 box.

you can view it on the xfinity stream app on your cell phone or in a browser.

 

That's kinda what it's doing. Or at least, that's what it makes it look like.

98% of your channels are regular QAM. They're for a lack of better terms, regular channels, that your cable box can see, your TV can see, your Tivo can see, it's a standard. Everyone can decode them.

An increasing number of channels are being added in IPTV only, or are being converted to IPTV. This is far more proprietary (by design). The catch is, the Comcast boxes have been taught to read these IPTV channels off the wire when tuned, and present them as if they were a normal channel - so the user interface is the same. So if you're using a comcast box, it's a transparent experience. You press 1115 on the remote, and instead of reading a broadcast channel, it uses IP to ask a server to send some video - which it then puts on your TV.

This is much like the conversion from MPEG2 to MPEG4 where comcast rolled out new boxes that could decode MPEG4, and then once there was a critical mass of MPEG4 supporting boxes in the field, started switching channels over to MPEG4. Anyone who didn't have a newer cable box or tivo lost those channels until they upgraded.

In this case however, your Tivo knows nothing of Comcast's IPTV scheme, and there's nothing it can do. There is supposedly a solution "being worked on", but I wouldn't hold my breath. Going forward, it's a valid concern.

 

You would like that. I would like that. Tivo would like that. A couple of other manufacturers would like that.

Comcast on the other hand, has essentially nothing to gain, and doesn't want that. It's nothing but extra expense, and lost revenue. They fought the CableCard mandate tooth and nail. They dragged out the successor to CableCards to the point where it never got off the ground. And they're never going to embrace any sort of public API. It's all downside from a corporate point of view.

The customers that would truly leave over the situation (as opposed to those that threaten to quit, then grumble but stay), is such a low number that they don't really care.

 

It's called Comcast phasing out qam and shifting channels to iptv, thus making your tivo become a relic. They want their rental fees, and they want you using X1. And they don't want to support qam anymore. It's just a matter of time.

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Also, just because it's "IP"TV doesn't mean it runs over the Internet. It can, but usually they're using a private intranet, like how many cable landline systems are also VoIP based, but are not running over the internet but their own private intranet.

So even though the data stream is standard DOCSIS, it's still highly proprietary and probably locked to the boxes.

 

Our TiVo's can not receive the channels that are being moved to IP TV. But moved channels still exist in standard definition. So you should have your channel in SD on your TiVo.

 

you probably have the Pluto app on your Tivo. Just run that and you can watch Newsmax free.

 

I thought you said that you couldn't get Newsmax?

 

The simple amuse themselves by ridiculing the complex.

 

Of course my CableCARD 'activated' TiVo devices don't do 1115 for NEWSMAX but I have an 'inactive' Bolt that on the TIVO+ w/TE4 I can do NEWSMAX. I'm NOT using Pluto or any other APP. TIVO+ seems to be an APP of it's own with a select menu for Genre on the left.

 

NOT in this case, as Newsmax is ONLY available in (IP) HD on Comcast...which of course only works on an X1 box or Roku/Firestick...

 

LOL, pot meet kettle.

 

In the general case (and with Comcast there are always exceptions) existing HD channels that move to IPTV (and those tend to have smaller viewship) continue to have their SD feed in linear QAM (for a couple of reasons). And most newly introduced channels are made available via IPTV only (as most newly available channels are expected to at least start with a smaller viewership). Newsmax, of course, was a new channel.

And to show the exception that proves the rule, when Comcast (finally?) managed to negotiate a contract with the Marquee channel (which got them carriage of the Cubs) that new channel is carried on Linear QAM for the Chicago market (where it is expected to be somewhat popular). Outside the local markets such channels tend to be IPTV (as while one can find Cubs fans everywhere, they tend to be low density outside the home market).

Comcast is expected to continue to use engineering intelligence when making such decisions (linear QAM vs IPTV) to minimize their overheads and bandwidths.

 

I do understand all that...my point was in THIS case, with the channel that was the topic of this thread...

 

The intent was for the OP, and later readers, to better understand for the future.

 

Is that channel part of your cable package? You don’t need to do anything special for IPTV channels.