I'm really not trying to be rude but - as the end is here, do folks see any further point to this forum? I should say I've assumed the plug has now been pulled by Tivo. Haven't used the Tivo for a couple of weeks so not sure about that though, but even if I'm wrong it must be soon? Anyway, farewell from this longstanding Tivo user. I now use a Foxsat which as I've said in another thread is huge improvement in some respects on Tivo - twin tuners, amazing pic quality etc - but I really will miss Tivo's user-friendliness and lovely interface. The Humax doesn't come close in that respect.