Does the TiVo Energy Savings Mode Make a Difference?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by MikeekiM, Oct 11, 2019.

What Is Your TiVo Energy Savings Mode Setting?

  1. Manual - No Automatic Standby

    27 vote(s)
    75.0%
  2. Low

    2 vote(s)
    5.6%
  3. Medium

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. High

    3 vote(s)
    8.3%
  5. Other (or Multiple TiVos with Different Settings) - Explain

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. MikeekiM

    MikeekiM Palindromer

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    I was dinking around with my TiVo settings this morning and was reminded of TiVo's energy savings setting.

    I currently have it set to "manual" which keeps my TiVo on 24/7/365 unless I manually put it into standby.

    Is there any real/meaningful benefit to using the High, Medium or Low settings?

    I wasn't planning on a poll, but what the heck...vote if you know your setting, or ignore it... Just curious what setting you are using, and some discussion on whether there is a benefit at all.
     
  2. lhvetinari

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    Somewhere around here there's a guy who took measurements with a Kill-a-watt for his base-model Roamio. The difference wasn't too spectacular, especially considering the weird litany of issues that boxes in standby can cause when they don't wake properly.

    Personally, I have mine split - my frontroom Bolt (where my Minis connect and where most recording happens) is set to Low. My bedroom Roamio which is only used a bit in the morning and late evening (and records some primetime bits) is set to High since it's not in use all day.
     
  3. snerd

    snerd Well-Known Member

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    This isn't something that is subject to opinion, since it is measurable.

    My Roamio Plus consumes 20.4W when fully awake, but "only" 15.8W when in standby. So, there is a measurable benefit since the power draw is reduced by about 23%, amounting to less than $5/year at the rate I pay for electrons. This $5/year saving would require the Roamio to be in standby 24/7. Note that remote access to recordings remains active while a TiVo is in standby, so if you no longer make new recordings or watch live TV, there is no benefit to keeping the box awake.

    This is a significant improvement over the TiVo S3, which draws 38.4W when fully awake and 36.8W when in standby, for a mere 4.2% reduction in power consumption. An awake Roamio draws only about 53% as much power as an awake S3.

    I haven't measured my Bolts or Minis yet. I suspect they use less power than the Roamio.
     
  4. BigJimOutlaw

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    Meaningful is subjective but the hard drive spins down on the medium and high settings after 2 or 4 hours, which will be a savings of up to ~5 watts during those off times.
     
  5. lart2150

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    For me the reason I use the energy saving mode is to decrease writes on the hard drive from keeping a buffer on 4 channels all night long or while I'm at work.
     
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  6. MikeekiM

    MikeekiM Palindromer

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    I ended up switching to automatic standby, and what I found was that the TiVo Roamio itself woke up rather quickly... But any TiVo mini has to wait almost a minute for the "mothership" to wake up and be responsive...

    Not acceptable in my household, as the TiVo Mini actually gets more usage than my main TiVo... So I am going back to "Manual" mode with no automatic standby... It's a shame really...I would like to put it to sleep when it's not in use and save some energy and hard drive activity (as insignificant as it might be).
     
  7. JoeKustra

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    Send TiVo a Tweet or feedback about it. It broke a few years ago.
     
  8. MikeekiM

    MikeekiM Palindromer

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    Oh, is it not supposed to work like that? I thought I read a warning in the UI that it could take up to 30 seconds for TiVo to wake up from standby... I figure maybe this was normal behavior... It's a very bad and unacceptable behavior in my opinion...but nevertheless I thought it was "expected" behavior based on that warning message.
     
  9. KevTech

    KevTech Active Member

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    A five watt difference between on and standby would save you about a penny a day if the Tivo was in standby for 24 hours.
    Personally I do not use standby on Tivo.

    You should have another poll option Off as TE4 does not have manual.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2019
  10. JoeKustra

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    When I do wake even a Roamio from Standby it only takes 5 to 10 seconds. Many messages are from the Series 4, which is pretty slow. But that box only takes about 15 seconds. A TE4 Roamio needs about 10 seconds, but for network operation it can take a minute or more. I always use Standby for my 3 active Mini but never for my TE3 Roamio. My TE4 Roamio is online about 90% of the time, mainly since I used it for storage and now just for streaming.
     
  11. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

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    Money saved was brought up in a previous post. Right now I'm 900 miles from my house dog-sitting. I can see my electricity daily use from any internet location. My current rate is $0.06546 per KWH. At this time all that is running is:
    2 Roamio
    cable modem
    router
    wireless bridge
    fridge
    So no heat/ac, hot water, lights or any other on-demand device. I am using 5 KWH per day. Also, just to get service is about $30 per month. I'm not going to do the math. The house next door only has a door bell transformer running and it uses .0512 KWH per day. My supplier changed meters a few months ago to measure four decimal places.

    TiVo Online shows me all my 1P are working. That's nice.
     
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