Does the Premiere still lag?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by benraymond, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. benraymond

    benraymond New Member

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    So, I have a series 3 and I am happy. I am going to add another TV in my office and am wondering about the Premiere box. When I read the initial reviews of the device, I was very turned off - none of the features I wanted, and significant UI lag issues, which I know would drive me nuts.

    So, has the software updates fixed this at all? Are the boxes any faster?
     
  2. LoREvanescence

    LoREvanescence Always Autocorrected

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    Mine has never lagged for me. The HD Interface runs just as fast as the SDUI. Every once and awhile the discovery bar will take a extra second or two to appear but that does not slow me down or bother me.

    Over all I am very happy with my premiere and have no complaints.
     
  3. Jonathan316

    Jonathan316 New Member

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    Our Premiere has always created a tangible lag in menu operations, unsure why it would be different for LoREvanescence. In HD menus the lag can make menu displays and interactions take up to twice at long (it seems) at times. It does seem to have gotten better with software updates, at least the HD menus have not frozen our Premiere for many months now. Other parts of it are downright clunky, like the Netflix player on the Premiere (well covered in other threads).

    But even with the lag and quirks we still like the Premiere more than my previous series 2 and 3 boxes. For us the #1 drawback to the Premiere is the cable card requirement. We know and understand the "why?" of them, just don't like anything that requires the cable company to come inside our house, and gives a single point of failure like that. If your older Tivo 2 or 3 pooped out for some reason or needed a cleaning or whatever, you could just bypass it and leave the TV on.
     
  4. caddyroger

    caddyroger New Member

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    I keep mine in the SDUI .My has some lag when using the HDUI and every once in awhile it reboots for no reason. In SDUI in the morning when I first turn on the tv the premiere will be at the thx screen or the dancing tivo guy. I just press any button to take me to the tivo menu. This is with the latest update.
     
  5. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    OMG, won't anyone read through the threads first before starting new threads?

    Yes, there is still lag in the HDUI. And hundreds of postings from people who complain about it (including some from me).

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=473174&highlight=lag
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=470318&highlight=lag
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=470392&highlight=lag
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=463791&highlight=lag
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=463854&highlight=lag
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=471855&highlight=performance
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=472934&highlight=performance
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=472091&highlight=performance
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=470916&highlight=performance
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=470463&highlight=performance
     
  6. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    The HDUI lags for me. I just use the SDUI.
     
  7. LoREvanescence

    LoREvanescence Always Autocorrected

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    I guess I'm just lucky then.

    The only problem I have ever experienced was in the couple weeks after 14.8 rolled out until the patch. I had the stops responding to remote bug 3 times.

    But other then that, I never have had freezes, reboots, the hdui runs perfectly. I have had me premiere for like 15 months now I think. Pretty sure it was april right after the release in march that I got it.
     
  8. steinbch

    steinbch Active Member

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    If you are concerned about the lag and speed, I suggest investing in the Slide Remote...yes, I know that you shouldn't NEED to spend extra to make the Premiere work well; however, the Slide Remote makes my Premiere MUCH, MUCH more responsive.
     
  9. DaveWhittle

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    Not much lag for me in HDUI for me either. It's not super snappy, but not frustratingly slow.
     
  10. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Well if you need a new TiVo I would recommend getting a Premiere and I would recommend paying for lifetime service. Should cost you something around $500 depending on where you buy your Premiere.

    Regarding if the HDUI "lags" or not, I guess that depends on what you are comparing it to. It is not as fast as the SDUI on the Premiere. It loads lots of graphics and other stuff from the Internet and well that just isn't ever going to be as fast as using a text based menu system.

    If you will find the HDUI unacceptably slow or not will end up being a personal thing - just like if you actually find it to be more useful than the SDUI or not.

    For me I did not find the HDUI too slow, but I did find it to be pointless and prefer the SDUI which is pretty much like the UI on your Series 3 only faster.

    Good Luck,
     
  11. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    What does the remote have to do with the UI lagging?
     
  12. steinbch

    steinbch Active Member

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    I feel that navigation is snappier when using the Slide Remote. Yes, it doesn't help at all with the screen refreshing, but there is enough of a delay decrease in misc. operations that trying to use the regular remote makes me want to pull my hair out.
     
  13. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    That all depends on the individual. Everyone has their own patience levels and expectations. Speed perception will vary also depending on which DVR's and other electronics that person has used in the past.

    That said, to me, the HDUI is frustratingly slow but also irritating in design. Even the SDUI is annoyingly slow at redrawing screens, but it is usable and MUCH faster than the HDUI. The SDUI is about the same speed as my HD was. ANYTHING slower than the SDUI is a major downgrade to me.
     
  14. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Correct. The Slide remote shaves a small fraction of a second off the remote response time, but it is still noticeable. It does not affect or change the UI speed- which, overall, remains sub-par at best to me.
     
  15. benraymond

    benraymond New Member

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    "OMG, won't anyone read through the threads first before starting new threads?"


    Read through a fair amount of the threads - perhaps I didn't use the search as diligently as I could have. Many of the threads were very early reviews of the box; I was wondering if software updates have improved the situation.

    I already have the slide remote which seems to slow down the UI in the series 3....
     
  16. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    That is strange. The Slide should not affect the UI at all- it certainly doesn't on the Premiere. What it is does is enable the TiVo Premiere to respond to a keypress a fraction of a second faster because the bluetooth signal can be decoded faster than an IR signal.
     
  17. danjw1

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    Or, you could just get an iPad and control it with that. That should remove most of the UI rendering load from the Tivo.
     
  18. rblum

    rblum New Member

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    What I found out when I switched from Time Warner to FiOS is that the upgrade in Internet speed from Roadrunner Turbo to FiOS 25/25 changed the responsiveness of the HD menu by a lot. It's now about the same as SD to my senses. If local memory was used and software properly implemented, it seems to me that it shouldn't be that way, but it is.
     
  19. danjw1

    danjw1 Member

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    You seem to be suggesting that it is fetching content over the Internet, that is the only way it would be affected by the speed of that connection.
     
  20. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I have a verified 35Mb/s download speed and over 12Mb/s upload speed on my extremely reliable cable modem service. The HDUI is much, much, much slower than the SDUI. FIOS 25/25 isn't going to make any difference compared to that. I question your senses :)
     

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