Doctor Who "The Time of the Doctor" 12/25/13

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  1. Jan 4, 2014 #181 of 204
    Dawghows

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    Yeah, right?
     
  2. Jan 4, 2014 #182 of 204
    Ozzie72

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    I've lost track of who I agree with, but I agree that Matt Smith has conveyed the best sense of pain / despair / regret of all the recent Doctors. Eccleston was mainly lonely. Tennant was, in turns, manic, vengeful, egomaniacal, churlish, and resigned to dying before finally realizing he wanted to keep living. Smith played it as if he regretted that decision but knew he had to persevere anyway. But the difference I see with Smith's Doctor is that he actively tried to atone for some of his past wrongs and to make things better, for himself and his companions.

    By the time of the Smith Doctor, he's had 900-some years to understand all of the baggage that comes with being the Doctor or one of his associates. When something goes sideways despite his best attempts to avoid it, he expresses the anguish that you'd expect from someone who truly understands the impact -- good, bad, or ugly -- that he's had on those he considers loved ones.
     
  3. Jan 5, 2014 #183 of 204
    TonyD79

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    We can disagree. Since we do, we can.

    Look for the subtle stuff. The change in his eyes showing weariness and concern even when he is saying something stupid or smiling. But the eyes also show joy and delight. They are both good actors. Tennant is Shakespearean. So his technique plays broader to me. I've seen him in other roles. He was quite good as Casanova and held his own in hamlet opposite Patrick Stewart. But his Doctor was flatter. Less texture. I can feel that Smith is 900 or 1200 years old. It is the face behind the face. Side by side really showed the difference to me. Both good. But Smith felt deeper. The conventional wisdom is the Smith Doctor is goofy and Tennant's Doctor was strong. That wisdom is wrong. Smith's Doctor is energetic but shows wear and tear. It is more subtly written and more subtly played.
     
  4. Jan 5, 2014 #184 of 204
    JohnB1000

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    + a lot with the last post :)
     
  5. Jan 5, 2014 #185 of 204
    Dawghows

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    Well, again, I've enjoyed all the "NuWho" Doctors, and I don't mean to complain about Smith in any way. I missed Eccleston after he left, Tennant after he left, and I'm quite sure I will miss Smith as well. They all brought something different to the show, and for my money that transition from one Doctor to the next is not only what makes the show unique, but is also what keeps the show fresh.

    Of course I am also not trying to change anyone's mind here; we all have our preferences and perspectives. I'm just one more Joe giving his opinion.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2014 #186 of 204
    Langree

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    I'd say Tennant's Doctor was more emotional, the bits with Rose, the conversation with Sarah Jane. He was able to convey the inner sadness in a very real way.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2014 #187 of 204
    Philosofy

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    Tenant conveyed sadness: Smith conveyed weariness.
     
  8. Jan 6, 2014 #188 of 204
    dtle

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    Tennant Sadness conveyed.

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  9. Jan 6, 2014 #189 of 204
    JohnB1000

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    They needed the rain because his acting couldn't pull it off !!!!
     
  10. Jan 6, 2014 #190 of 204
    danterner

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    Tennant sadness conveyed with no rain:

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  11. Jan 6, 2014 #191 of 204
    Lori

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    Just thinking about these scenes is making me sad. :(
     
  12. Jan 6, 2014 #192 of 204
    sushikitten

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    Agreed.
     
  13. Jan 6, 2014 #193 of 204
    JohnB1000

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    That was a scene where he was required to be sad. Easy for almost anyone. Conveying sadness while goofing around is the trick :cool::D
     
  14. Jan 6, 2014 #194 of 204
    danterner

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    Our household was awakened at about 1:00 AM last night by my daughter, shrieking with delight over something Tennant said. She's a recent fan of Doctor Who and has been doing a marathon while on winter break. Currently, her three favorite things in the world* are Doctor Who, Shakespeare, and the Harry Potter book series. All three came together in "The Shakespeare Code," which she watched for the first time last night.

    *subject to change at any moment...
     
  15. Jan 6, 2014 #195 of 204
    Rob Helmerichs

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    He does sad very well, with or without rain. And giddy joy. But to me, his wrath always seemed more like petulance.
     
  16. Jan 6, 2014 #196 of 204
    danterner

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  17. Jan 6, 2014 #197 of 204
    JohnB1000

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    I can see the sadness in his eyes there :up:
     
  18. Jan 6, 2014 #198 of 204
    JohnB1000

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    This will always be Tennant to me



     
  19. Jan 6, 2014 #199 of 204
    JETarpon

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    "He always says that."
     
  20. Jan 6, 2014 #200 of 204
    TonyD79

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    He did do sadness in the scene but the frame looks more like fear. ;)
     

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