Doctor Who - The Girl Who Waited 9/10/11

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  1. jschuur

    jschuur TV-holic, improving

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    I'm traveling forward in time right now. Just very slowly. So no wibbly wobbling.
     
  2. tgmii

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    Never would have guessed Amy's most important, short, shared thought.

    What??? :)

    Macarena??? Cracked me up!
     
  3. whitson77

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    We just watched it. That was tough. The Doctor was kind of an ass in this one. Of course he didn't mean to be, but here is a good example of his good intentions going awry. Every now and then he plays with time and people get caught in the middle.
     
  4. dianebrat

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    LOVED it! it was so out of left field, especially when she started with the moves.
     
  5. AeneaGames

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    Give it some time, after a while you will walk wibbly wobbly because of old age :D
     
  6. ADent

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    I don't think they sad the medicine was definitely deadly - just that it could be deadly.



    I think the Doctor was a jerk since the power of the TARDIS kept Jack Harkness alive for 5 billion years and supported a massive paradox with the Master. Seems like it could have supported two Amy's - but I am sure some Treknobabble could have explained they both couldn't be inside at once or such if you want to think the Doctor was telling the truth at the end.
     
  7. BitbyBlit

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    But I think the Doctor chooses companions who like the same type of adventure he does. Rory, however, is traveling for Amy, not the Doctor, so he doesn't feel quite the same way she does.
     
  8. BitbyBlit

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    But the story was written with that convention. Multiple characters, including older Amy, mentioned that she would never exist if they saved younger Amy. For a moment she thought she could be rescued with younger Amy, but then later found out that the Doctor had lied.

    That's why she gave Rory the speech at the end about giving up her years to younger Amy. And when she was first banging on the door trying to get in, the Doctor told Rory that she wasn't real, as in, "Once we leave, she will only be a memory."
     
  9. kaszeta

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    Well, back in Utopia, the Doctor told Jack that since he had become a "fixed point in time", he was a disturbance to him and the Tardis.

    I'd suspect that two Amys might also cause trouble.
     
  10. BitbyBlit

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    Yeah. Jack wasn't even a paradox, and he caused the TARDIS to flee to the end of time. The Master was able to make the TARDIS hold open his paradox, but only after turning it inside out. And as soon as that was shut down, everything was undone.

    So while it might have been possible to keep both Amys, it likely would have involved some serious damage to the TARDIS and possibly the universe.
     
  11. LoadStar

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    The last time they had two time zones at war in the heart of the TARDIS, it was going to blow a hole in the space-time continuum the size of Belgium. While a bit undramatic, it probably would take the TARDIS with it, so that's not a good thing. :)
     
  12. Church AV Guy

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    In the Pertwee series, "The Day of the Daleks" the Doctor talks about the "Blinovitch Limitation Effect". This concept has been used many (well, at least a few) times in the series, most effectively in "Mawdryn Undead" to describe the problems with crossing your own timestream. Things like Rose encountered in "Father's Day" will happen. It seems that the issue has just been dropped for the Eleventh Doctor for some reason.
     
  13. cstelter

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    I suppose that if he did take both Amys on board it could have led to the TARDIS exploding and cracks all over the universe. Then maybe he'd have to reboot the universe in order to fix that, but then not make that mistake again....
     
  14. IndyJones1023

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    Smith is only the 11th Doctor. There can be 13 regenerations.
     
  15. robojerk

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    I thought that too, but Ive also read that the number of regenerations may be infinite.
     
  16. JohnB1000

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    The latest theory is that when Melody/River saved him she gave him her regenerations.
     
  17. TonyD79

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    Not sure why you spoilerized that. The episode is open to this thread.

    Anyway, Rory muttered it was their first kiss. Must be "their song."
     
  18. Bryanmc

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    The total number of possible regenerations is directly proportional to the length of time the show is profitable.
     
  19. Rob Helmerichs

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    12 regenerations. 13 incarnations.

    But we've already seen that the Time Lords controlled the process (they once offered, and another time granted, extra regenerations to the Master). So did the Time Lords artificially extend the number of regenerations, or artificially limit them? The latter would make it easy for the Doctor to just keep going (nobody left to limit him); the former would make it possible (he or somebody else could figure out how the extension process worked).

    Plus the River Song business. And the Doctor's impending death gives them another opportunity to mess with it. It will be trivial to get by the 12 regenerations limit at this point.
     
  20. IndyJones1023

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    Oh, I'm well aware the writers can make it up as they go along. I was just pointing out a few data points.
     

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