Advertisements (And people say I ramble!) Hmm. So why is your username bartendergreg? They did? Please provide this announcement. The slot 2 issue is one thing, but did you or any of your colleagues ever provide a CableCard device on site which did work with the CableCards? It didn't take 30 cards, but it took several to find one which worked when they installed my Mitsubishi TV. Then later when more cards did not work in my Series III, they also did not work in my Mitsubishi. Then yet again later, when cards would not work in my second S3, they also would not work when placed in my 1st S3 or the Mitsubishi. All the cards which worked in my first S3 also worked in the second S3 and the Mitsubishi. <lots of unconnected, almost indecipherable rambling deleted> The TiVo needs an internet connection so it can do about 40% of things it can that the CATV DVR can't. Swivel Search, Internet Content, Web based control, MRV, Home Network applications, the 2 week TV guide, etc. all require the Internet connection. Try playing music from your music collection or showing photos from your photo collection on the 8300. Oh, and how many people who can afford a TiVo don't have internet connections? Because it can't do a fraction of the things the TiVo can! A bicycle doesn't require gasoline. Does that mean you prefer to ride a bicycle rather than drive your company vehicle? Which while significant are not the most important aspects of the TiVo's capabilities. Oh, yes, it is. It's interface is vomitous and its capabilities pathetic. As with the TiVo, but with a Series III TiVo, I can (and do) have 2TB of recording space. With the 8300, I'm limited to 1.12 TB. I'm also given to understand some people have been having quite a few problems with an external HD on the 8300, but then I have no personal experience in the matter.