Do I Go Ahead and Purchase An HR10-250???

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by JimBob, May 6, 2005.

  1. berth

    berth New Member

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    If you hate commercials as much as I do, then get the box at the discount after getting a commitment from D* on discounts on HD service etc -- if you agree to purchase the box. (There is a thread on this in this in this forum)

    I have been very happy with my HD TIVO (still the original one from April) and found that virtually all the problems that I have had are from the networks, the local station or local reception problems -- very high trees and a large hill between me and the towers.

    I do record ***very little*** HD from D* and mostly get OTA HD, so unless you are in an area where they will be putting up your locals in the satillite, you should be fine for quite a while.

    I also think that HD is like a lot of sports or activities where the entry criteria is the ability to burn <fill in> size dollar bills and not cringe. Examples: Skiing =$50, yachting = $1000, HDTV = $100?

    regards, bert
     
  2. JimBob

    JimBob New Member

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    OK, I did it.

    Purchased it from VE. Robert was extremly helpful. He spent a good 30 minutes on the phone with me answering my questions.

    As far as the price, I can assure you Robert has the lowest of all the unadvertised prices. It, ships next Tuesday.

    Thanks to everyone who contributed. Everyone was very helpful.

    JimBob
     
  3. CalypsoCowboy

    CalypsoCowboy New Member

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    I think I may have to jump to. 700 - 250 credit is 450 plus if you can work any other extra credits you can work. I've heard of people getting 450 in credits which would get the cost down to 250. What may happen in the future may be uncertain but even with MPEP4 you'll still be able to record OTA HD and regular SD for a while.
     
  4. Crash_Corrigan

    Crash_Corrigan New Member

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    Better make sure D* is still offering credits (or at least that level of credits). There's no guarantee that they are still being as generous now that they've lowered the price.

    I think D* was more generous with credits on HD STBs a couple years when they sold for $700-$800 than when they lowered the price.
     
  5. JimBob

    JimBob New Member

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    Crash,

    See my post on the thread on how to deal with D* for discounts. This morning I negotiated for a total of $469 in D* programing and other credits. I've pre-ordered my HR10-250 from VE to be shipped next Tuesday. So, it seems that until D* actually lowers their price, they are continuing to offer the credits.

    This would appear to be the best week (prior to May 17th) to pull the chain and get the machine. I'm quite happy with the bottom line price in the end. At the amount I ended up giving for my HR10-250 (post credits) it was a no-brainer to go ahead and get it.

    JimBob
     
  6. Mikehdtv

    Mikehdtv New Member

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    A sucker is born everyday. Stay away from the HD-Tivo, it will just be a pain in your "A" and will be obsolete in 7 months. But hey it's your money. :thumbsdown:
     
  7. Crash_Corrigan

    Crash_Corrigan New Member

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    JimBob,

    Congrats on getting such a good deal. You appear to have picked a good time to take the plunge. Of course, I don't regret buying mine last May. My net cost after credits was $749 and it's been worth every penny to timeshift HD and watch what I want on my schedule (as well as skip commercials).

    I had a harddrive failure with my first unit last September, but it was replaced via FedEx 2nd day Air. The replacement unit has performed flawlessly (knock on wood).

    Since I don't need HD locals via satellite, I'm not sure how soon I'll have to switch to the new MPEG-4 gear (could be 6 months, could be 12 months or a couple years for all we know), but I think the earliest of early adopters will be able to tell us about the new equipment and about D*'s upgrade offer long before I need to upgrade. So I should have plenty of time and information to make a decision on whether to upgrade or (if necessary) switch to Charter Cable and rent a Moxi DVR and sell my HDTivo. In the mean time, I figure I've got the best HD DVR out there (and the only one that works with D*).

    Enjoy.
     
  8. digiboy

    digiboy New Member

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    There is a huge flaw in this argument. We are monthly subscribers to D*.

    Micrsoft does off subscription plans and if you sign up, you DO get all software updates.

    The key element in the wars between D*, DISH, cable, etc. is making it easy to migrate initially, difficult to change. If D* charges customers for channels that cannot be received without shelling out $ for new hardware - how many subscribers (and mostly their top tier subscribers) are going to look at other options? Retention demands customer service and D* would be foolish to remove the carrot from the stick.
     
  9. richierich

    richierich AKA PLASMAMANIAC

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    The HR10-250 will not be obsolete in 7 months because the MPEG-4 will just be used initially for HD Local Channels. If you get your HD Local Channels via OTA then who cares about the MPEG-4 Locals, just another service you will have to pay for when I get it for free. Also, any other channels that will be broadcast in MPEG-4 will also be broadcast in MPEG-2 for at least 2 years so your statement that this unit will be obsolete has no merit. In fact I bought me second unit and aside from the fact that I have to run SpinRite to correct the flaws caused by new software downloads to the piece of SH!T WD hard drive that should be replaced but I can't because of all of the stuff I have on it. Thank God for SpinRite because it has resurrected my hard drive twice and now I can still watch all of my recordings still intact.
     
  10. NotATameLion

    NotATameLion New Member

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    Is this official or just speculated? I've not seen this announced by DirecTV, but I might have missed it.
     
  11. richierich

    richierich AKA PLASMAMANIAC

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    Peachtree...
    Yes, it has been announced and discussed here in this forum. They can't afford to swap out every STB plus Tivos, etc. in 6 months, they estimated 2 to 3 years before everyone will be swapped over. There are too many customers that they would lose just to give them HD locals which alot of people aren't even interested in. It just will not happen as quickly as everyone thinks because of the infrastructure associated with all of this. The affiliates etc. would have to make alot of equipment changes. They are not going to pull the plug on MPEG-2 until all of there customers have been switched over and most of those are not even HD customers.
     
  12. NotATameLion

    NotATameLion New Member

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    I apologize if I'm not getting it, but I've been reading this forum as well as AVSForums, and what I've not seen that you are purporting as announced and official is that D* guaranteed that all new HD programming would be offered in both MPEG-4 and MPEG-2. If you have a link to this announcement, please post. I must have missed it.

    I know they will not turn off the MPEG-2 stream until everyone is on MPEG-4, but I believe it is speculation as to when that will be completed.

    What I gathered was official from DirecTV was
    1. they are adding capability for much more HD programming, which would begin with HD LIL.
    2. equipment swapout would coincide with HD LIL rollout, and will include MPEG-4 based boxes as well as a new dish to point to the new sats.
    3. MPEG-2 will not be pulled until everyone is on MPEG-4.

    I've read on these forums that there is not much bandwidth on the existing satellites for more than 1 or 2 additional HD channels. I doubt that for the next 2 years D* will only rollout 2 additional HD channels. So I conclude from this that either:
    1. there will be HD content on MPEG-4 that will not be available to remaining MPEG-2 users for some period of time until they get swapped out.
    2. The swapout will be made relatively quickly, so everyone will be on MPEG-4 equipment before much new HD content is delivered. I've read that they're plan is to roll out 12 DMAs per month once they begin.
     
  13. aspurgeon

    aspurgeon New Member

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    I just purchased the DirecTV HD 250 and it does everything I was needing. I am replacing a DirecTV reciever and TiVo 2 unit.

    I've had a 65" Mitsubishi 1080 CRT projection monitor for about 7 years and never really used the HD aspects of it. In fact I was thinking of buying a new Sony 1080 projection display but now I can say that won't be necessary. The HD images look stunning when watching Discovery HD and Showtime HD shows and the interface between the DirecTV receiver and the TiVo DVR is smooth. I can get many HD channels off air as well since I have line of site to downtown Seattle.

    I paid $449 for the unit at BestBuy because the package was opened once.

    The only thing I don't like is the slow redrawing of the listing guide. Its almost painful.

    thanks,
    Al
     
  14. bigcb37

    bigcb37 Willing Member

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    Falls...
    The default setting on the Tivo is to have the listing guide set as the "Directv Guide" switch it to the "Tivo Guide" and it will speed things up significantly. Just press info when the guide is up and you will be able to change the guide options. There is a spot to switch from directv to tivo...its a better guide format IMO anyways
     

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