DIY 10TB Roamio

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  1. Oct 7, 2019 #101 of 154
    jmbach

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    I do think cloning the bad drive to a good drive with ddrescue is a good idea using several passes.

    Would boot the clone in the TiVo and do a KS 58 almost immediately. That should check/update the MFS and MFS OS which should take care of everything that was a problem in critical areas. You might have some bad spots in recordings but everything else should be good. Then do several force connections with TiVo servers.

    If all goes well, you should be able to copy that image to the 6TB drive. I recommend booting the copy in the TiVo before expanding it. Again, I recommend a KS 58 followed by a couple of connections to TiVo servers. If all goes well, then expand the drive.
     
  2. Nov 3, 2019 #102 of 154
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    I think I just successfully replaced my 3 TB drive with a 10 TB in my Roamio. After running all commands and reinstalling new drive, got over 1600 hrs capacity. Also connected to tivo service a few times. As last task, I am attempting KS 58 as suggested in this thread. After entering command (getting alternating green and amber lights after entering), the tivo comes up with "installing an update...this will take a few minutes." Is this correct? This screen has been up at least 30 minutes so far, how long should this process take to finish on a 10 TB drive? I have a bad habit of being quick to restart, etc. out of fear its not working. I want to be patient but also want to be sure it is doing what it is supposed to.

    I will add, the original 3 TB drive was over 90% full with recordings and took around 12 hours to copy to the 10 TB. Is this an indication of how long the KS 58 should take?
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2019 #103 of 154
    jmbach

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    It should take no more than 3 hours.
     
  4. Nov 3, 2019 #104 of 154
    MisterWho

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    Is it normal that it stays on the "installing an update..." screen the whole time?

    Thanks you for all your assistance BTW.

    edit: after 6 hours, I pulled plug to restart. It booted normally. After a few extra manual restarts through menu and couple successful connections to TiVo service should I be satisfied that all is well? What does it mean that KS 58 didn’t work right?
     
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  5. Nov 7, 2019 #105 of 154
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    Has anyone tried 12TB yet? I have a 10TB running in my Roamio.
     
  6. Nov 7, 2019 #106 of 154
    jmbach

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    It has been tried up to 14 TB. If the current partitions are oriented correctly, it will require manual manipulation of the APM to prep the drive. Post the output of mfsinfo -d of your 10 TB drive to see if it is possible.
     
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  7. Nov 7, 2019 #107 of 154
    jlin

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    So take out the 10TB drive into a PC and then mfsinfo -d ?
    This was originally upgraded from 6TB

    Anyway to do a fresh 12TB Roamio?

    The 12TB is on sale at bestbuy currently for $179 !
     
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  8. Nov 7, 2019 #108 of 154
    jmbach

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    If you started with a 6TB, then you only have done 2 additional adds. You should have one more. So all you should need to do is clone the 10 TB to the 12 TB and do one more add sequence.
     
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  9. Nov 9, 2019 #109 of 154
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    Ok, I'm posting just as a data point and for any insight anyone may have.

    I did the upgrade from a "roamio self-upgraded" 3 TB drive to a 10 TB drive (shucked from an WD Easystore external) using this thread. After reinstallation, it reported 1,603 hours as expected and all seemed fine, connections completed and unit restarted successfully when initiated from restart menus. Upon further use however, I found a few recordings that would not play and gave error along the lines of "does not exist, no signal when recording" (I forget exactly). Also, one of these recordings, when deleted, could not be permanently deleted from recently deleted folder. This set me down the path of the kickstart attempts. While the tivo reported the expected menu when entering KS 58 ("installing an update..."), it ran for over 12 hours before I pulled the plug. I then tried the clear program data command and it hung there for another several hours and when I pulled the plug, it only rebooted to this same screen. I then installed original upgraded 3 TB drive and attempted KS 58 which lasted over 6 hours before I pulled plug on it whereupon it reboot fine. I now wonder why my tivo does not complete the KS 58 while no one else seems to have the failures (once begun) I do. I do now think it could be because I initiated these KS codes after a menu restart and not a plug pull restart. Could this be the difference?

    I want to think of what to do as after the previous hang at clearing program data, I redid the mfscopy and redid the 10 TB drive reinstalling it again with 1,603 hours shown. Now, I find the channel logos are gone from the guide (though they show on both connected minis) and curiously, I cannot create a one pass for Botched on E (when I checked one pass manager, this was hung at "updating" after touching the list order so I deleted it only to find it will not allow a one pass to be created now).

    This 10 TB upgrade has been running since lunch yesterday (approx. 18 hours now) and I wonder if I should allow to run for a few days to see if any of this self-corrects or if a kickstart is necessary, how I can ensure my box successfully completes the kickstart routine.

    Sorry for the wall of text but just throwing this out there in case...
     
  10. LegoZ

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    Thanks for that! Just upgraded mine last night/this morning! My upgrade to 12TB - Roamio OTA
     
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    This seemed to get largely missed, what is your setup? Single 14TB drive?
     
  12. jmbach

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    Yes. He used a single 14 TB drive.
     
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    since I have downloaded all your files , where do I get the k58 ? also do you have a donation tag ? thanks
     
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    KS 58 refers to a kickstart code entered as the TiVo boots up. Essentially while the TiVo is booting up, you look for the yellow light to flash then press the pause button on the remote followed by the numbers 5 and 8. The yellow and green light will flash alternating if it was accepted.

    I support ggeseike and his efforts so you can go over to the MFSR thread and make a donation there.
     
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    thanks , did it. I placed a order for a 10TB , will do it this weekend and posts on it
     
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    I have a similar experience on attempting an update from a bolt+ 3TB. I can't even run a successful kickstart 58 on the original drive. I tried the mfscopy described here to another drive multiple times - it won't boot up (GSOD / reboot loop) and won't do a kickstart 58 either. I was able to do a full copy dd_rescue style to another drive and it boots / seems to run fine, but kickstart 58 fails as well. Mine drive is also mostly full at around 85%.
     
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    Are you on TE4 or TE3?
     
  18. cenright

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    Still on TE3 - but original drive is getting real flaky. First try was using a shucked 10tb western digital white. Going to try the msfcopy per this thread to another older 5tb WD green and see if I can just get the 4tb result working there.
     
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    Would recommend using ddrescue with several passes to another drive to tray to make a decent workable copy.
     
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    Just finished upgrading my 4TB Roamio to 12TB. This requires a few extra manual tweaks that currently are no tools to automate this. It completes a KS58 and has no issues loading data from the daily connection. This unit is on TE3.

    It went from 75% full to 25% full.

    Using this technique, we should be able to go up to a 16TB drive. If there is enough interest and if I have enough time, a tool could be created to help make this procedure more automated. [​IMG]
     
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