DIY 10TB Roamio

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  1. Jul 17, 2019 #81 of 230
    jmbach

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    Have you read the second post of this thread?
     
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  2. Jul 18, 2019 #82 of 230
    jlin

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    Yep, just read it.

    How many hours will I lose the use of the Tivo to record the shows during the duplicating and modifying process?
     
  3. Jul 18, 2019 #83 of 230
    ggieseke

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    I'd guess 10-12 hours.
     
  4. Jul 28, 2019 #84 of 230
    jlin

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    I was able to copy my entire 6TB (which I used for 2 years) to a 10TB shucked from the current Bestbuy sale.

    I was at 88% at 6TB. Now it's 54% used for 10TB

    I have 1604 total hours for HD recordings (more than 1603 from the picture from OP).

    Thanks all for your help! This is amazing!
     
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    I cloned (not copy) a 3TB Roamio drive to 10TB (missed read the instructions copy not clone < 4TB). The drive appears to be working but recording capacity is 1515 not 1603 HD hours. Do I need to zero the drive and start over to acheive max HD hours? TIA
     
  9. Aug 3, 2019 #89 of 230
    jmbach

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    Yes you will. You can add up to 6 TB of recording space with this method. So 3 TB + 6 TB will give you 9 TB and not 10 TB.
     
  10. Aug 15, 2019 #90 of 230
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    Thanks for the great instructions @jmbach!

    I shucked a WD EasyStore 10TB and it contained a white label WD100EMAZ. I used MFSTools to copy the original 1TB drive to the new drive. This was quick as there were few recordings on the original drive. Ran mfsadd and mfsaddfix three times and achieved 1605 HD / 11067 SD hours.

    Since the drive is new, I decided I wanted to start with a clean drive. I ran a C&DE which caused me to loose the expanded drive size. Now Im going to put the original drive back in, run a C&DE and start the process over but why would a C&DE mess up the expanded drive?
     
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  11. Aug 15, 2019 #91 of 230
    jmbach

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    A clear and delete everything resets the drive to its original state. In Roamio and Bolts it means a reformat of the drive.
     
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  12. Sep 5, 2019 #92 of 230
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    Newegg has a 10 TB hard drive for $160 with the promo code EMCTETA22. The offer is for today (9/5) only.
     
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  13. Sep 30, 2019 #93 of 230
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    I upgraded from a 3TB drive to 6TB following the instructions in this thread. Initially the service connection worked, but then I started getting an S03 error. Another thread stated to delete guide data and to do list. When I did that, it hung (I left it running 18 hours on the "please wait, this will take about an hour" message). When I tried KS58, it gave me a software upgrade message (what KS56 is supposed to be doing) and yes, I am 100% sure I did KS58 (I did it twice). Did the KS57 and now I'm in a GSOD reboot loop. I assume that at this point, I will go through the process again off my original 3TB drive. Anything I need to do differently? I'm thinking about cloning the 3TB drive to another 3TB drive, booting off that and clearing guide data & to do list and thumb ratings & suggestions before copying it over to the 6TB drive and expanding. Any other thoughts/suggestions?
     
  14. Sep 30, 2019 #94 of 230
    jmbach

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    KS 57 on my Roamios or Bolts always seem to put them in a green screen boot loop. KS 58 seems like it tries to correct the MFS system and structure. No know for sure exactly what it does, but it does correct many issues.

    To get your drive working again, use mfsck and have it mark the MFS good. Then let it boot up. If it boots, run a KS 58 again and see if your connection errors clear up. If it still hangs, then I would do as you say and clone the drive to another drive. I would run a KS 58 on the drive and then try the copy process. I am not sure you really need to clear guide data, todo list, etc but just try to let the TiVo clean itself up.
     
  15. Oct 1, 2019 #95 of 230
    caroth

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    Thanks for your feedback.

    Do you know if KS 58 still does MFS checking, etc. despite it stating that it's doing a software upgrade? I have a Tivo Roamio Pro and have tried KS 58 several times with the same result (acting like it's upgrading the Tivo software). If not, I wonder if I should still bother upgrading or should just replace the stock 3TB drive (which is slowly going bad, shows freezing, etc. and the copy process show some errors reading some sectors) with another 3TB drive if my 6TB won't be stable if I can't run KS 58.

    I found this article where someone with a different model (a Premiere) had the same KS 58 doing software update instead of MFS checking: Kickstart 58 doesn't work right?
     
  16. Oct 1, 2019 #96 of 230
    jmbach

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    In theory it is supposed to do both, check/update the MFS OS and check/cleanup the MFS.
     
  17. Oct 4, 2019 #97 of 230
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    Since the original 3TB drive had some errors when copying (and the reason I was replacing it to begin with was that videos would freeze for a second, etc. which indicated to me, based on past Tivo experiences, that the drive was slowly starting to go South and should be replaced) and I was worried about it completely failing while I was playing around with it, I decided to copy it to a 3TB spare drive and then copy from that 3TB spare drive to the 6TB drive. If something went wrong, I would simply use the 3TB spare drive to copy from again and preserve the original drive.

    I did an MFSCOPY to the spare drive, then another MFSCOPY from it to the 6TB drive. When I booted it up, I got the message that Tivo had run out of guide data (it's been over two weeks since I first started this upgrade project). Connecting to the Tivo service failed with an error that guide data could not be updated. Then I noticed that all recordings were gone as well, so back to square one.

    My new plan is to DDRESCUE copy the original 3TB drive to the spare 3TB drive and then MFSCOPY from that drive to the 6TB drive.

    I've done several hard drive upgrades previously on Series 2, 3 and 4 and never had this much trouble. :(

    I'm just hoping that once I get the 6TB up and running again that the guide data updating issue won't come back after two weeks like it did the first time.

    Please let me know if you think there is a better way for me to do what I'm trying to do here. Otherwise, I'll report back once I go through the above plan and again a few weeks after once I know whether or not the guide data update issue comes back.
     
  18. Oct 4, 2019 #98 of 230
    jmbach

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    What mfscopy command line did you use for each copy. 3TB->3TB, 3TB->6TB.
     
  19. Oct 7, 2019 #99 of 230
    caroth

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    The one from the original post on this thread: mfscopy -am 2000 /dev/sda /dev/sdb

    I used the same when I did the original 3TB -> 6TB copy. That one had all the recordings and everything seemed to work fine (connected to Tivo and everything) until about 2 weeks later when I got the message that I was almost out of guide data and the connections to the Tivo service starting giving the S03 error.

    One thing I thought was odd on the original copy is that if I understand all the posts correctly, the above command should take the data off the 3TB drive and make a 4TB partition on the 6TB drive. Then I should run the MFSADD command in the original post to add another 2TB partition. But when I did that, the command told me there was no more space to add and when I put the drive into the Tivo, it seemed to be using all 6TB of space (based on my original drive showing 90% full and the new drive showing 45% full).
     
  20. Oct 7, 2019 #100 of 230
    jmbach

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    Interesting. Something did not go well. When I get home from work, I'll send you a PM to see what happened.
     

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