DIY 10TB Roamio

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  1. Feb 16, 2019 #61 of 230
    ShldBeStdy

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    These can be shucked and will work inside roamio?

    I just reread the previous posts and see specific mention of these. I presume that means they will work. Let’s see if I can get it done. I may be back asking for help. :p
     
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  2. Feb 17, 2019 #62 of 230
    ShldBeStdy

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    Thank you for providing this! I was able to go from 1 TB to 10 TB and keep all my current recordings. I took three pictures; one before, one after copy, and the one after extending the drive to full capacity. Went from 71% full to 7% full. [​IMG][​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  3. Mar 2, 2019 #63 of 230
    Scott9mm

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    Many thanks to JMBach and all the folks that created and improved these MFS tools. I have a Roamio Plus and some spare 3T WD green drives and I wanted to upgrade from the stock 1T drive to 3T.

    At first I cloned the 1T drive to a 3T drive with a Sabrent docking station. The cloned 3T drive ran fine but still indicated 1T capacity, of course. Then I tried to expand it using the instructions in post #2 but I must have done something wrong because TiVo wanted to do the full guided setup when I put the drive in the TiVo and I suspcted my recordings and settings wouldn't survive.

    So then I did a MFStools 3.3 copy from the original 1T drive to the 3T drive. It took over 6 hours using the Sabrent docking station. I used the -ai flag (saw in another post) vs the -am 2000 flag but I don't know if that made any difference. When I put the 3T copy in the TiVo I needed to re-pair the cable card but all other settings and programs were intact and the disk runs perfectly. I couldn't be more happy with the result. Many thanks.

    Correction: With the "new" 3T drive, the TiVo service connection was failing during the information loading step. A Kickstart 58 fixed it. Thanks to those that already found and documented this fix.
     
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  4. Mar 7, 2019 #64 of 230
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  5. Mar 21, 2019 #65 of 230
    angra

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    Just a little teaser :)
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  6. Apr 1, 2019 #66 of 230
    mstrbill

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    unfortunately, looks I need some help with a new drive for our Bolt. I cloned the 4 TB drive, to an 8 TB drive using a standalone docking station. It boot fine in the Bolt(in an external case) But when I run msfadd it says

    Current estimated standalone size: 4775 hours
    Nothing to add!

    mfsaddfix says

    Incorrect number of partitions found.
    Expected 16 and found 14.
    Unable to process drive.

    I accidentally ran msfr on the drive and had to clone it again. Maybe I should have zero'ed the drive out before cloning?

    Bill
     
  7. Apr 1, 2019 #67 of 230
    jmbach

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    There is a modified version of MFSTools mfsadd you will need to use on Bolts which has not been released yet that fixes that problem.
     
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  8. Apr 2, 2019 #68 of 230
    mstrbill

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    Thanks, I got here from another thread, that said go here and follow the directions. I will be happy with a working 4tb drive for now.
     
  9. Apr 8, 2019 #69 of 230
    jonw747

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    My 6TB Roamio Pro had been acting flaky lately, so I ordered a 10GB WD Red and completed the upgrade yesterday.
    I used a Fideco dual bay docking station (YPZ04-S2HC) as my old Sabrent I used for the 6TB did not work. The first attempt with the Fideco failed (stopped blinking, all lights red), but that may have been because I was using the Sabrent's PSU which had the same rating and a better form-factor. The second try with the Fideco's PSU worked taking 26 hours or so (stopped blinking, with one or two LEDs blue). The Fideco has terrible documentation.

    After the clone, I put it in my Roamio, and it booted up fine.

    I used the same PC I had used to clone the 6TB drive, and had to set the BIOS to legacy ATA mode and enable the internal Intel video, but it was able to boot the flash drive.

    I went ahead and just ran mfsadd and mfsaddfix twice to add 4TB of expansion, popped it back in my Roamio Pro and so far so good.

    Much thanks to jmbach
     
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  10. May 19, 2019 #70 of 230
    Mark Washburn

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    Can I expand a tivo formatted drive?
    I Had a loaded 3tb tivo formatted drive going bad that I cloned onto 6tb red drive. Everything works great except it reads as 3tb drive (Red drive seems awesome so quiet compared to Seagate drive I had in the series 5)!
    Can I expand the red without starting all over again?
    If not, will I need to reformat the 6tb drive before starting the whole process?
    I'm worried as the old 3tb is on its last leg, and I'm not sure it'll do another clone. Anyone ever tried, or know if it's possible?
     
  11. May 19, 2019 #71 of 230
    jmbach

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    You should be able to expand the recording space using the instructions at the beginning of the thread.
     
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  12. May 22, 2019 #72 of 230
    steve_scifi

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    Not sure I am ready yet to take this plunge (did the 3tb about a year ago) but this is impressive work jmbach!!
     
  13. Jun 13, 2019 #73 of 230
    Ronald Pasqualini

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    Hi JM,

    I have a Roamio, with an upgraded 3 TB disk, running Tivo’s 20.7.4 software.

    Since the Roamio disk is 80% full, I just purchased a 10TB WD Red disk that I will externally connect to the Roamio via a direct-connect SATA cable.

    Based upon input from Greg Giese, it looks like I can upgrade the Roamio disk capacity from 3TB to 10TB, while saving all of my recorded programs, using MFSTools and an external dual SATA dock. The procedure would go something like this:

    1) Download the MFSTools 3.3-devel ISO and burn it to a CD (or DVD)

    2) Put my existing 3TB Roamio disk and my new 10TB disk into the external SATA dock

    3) Boot my computer from the CD

    4) Since my Roamio disk is 3TB, and I want to increase the disk capacity to 10TB, I need to copy (not clone) the 3TB disk to the new 10TB disk using MFSTools. (This copy actually creates a 4TB image on the 10TB disk).

    5) Run the mfscopy -am 2000 /dev/sdX /dev/sdY command to copy all of my recorded programs to the 10TB disk

    6) Put the 10TB disk back into my Roamio and make sure that it boots up properly, and that it successfully connects to the Tivo service

    7) Remove the 10TB disk from my Roamio and put it back into the SATA dock

    8) Run the mfsadd -xm 2000 /dev/sdY command on the 10TB disk

    9) Run the mfsaddfix /dev/sdY command on the 10TB disk

    10) Since steps 8 & 9 combined add 2TB of disk capacity, I can run them two more times to add a total of 6TB to the original 4TB of disk capacity (4+2+2+2=10TB)

    11) To be on the safe side, run Kickstart 58

    I also need to make sure that my dual SATA dock will handle 10TB disks.

    Question #1:
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    Is the above procedure correct?

    And now for the hard stuff... -:)

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    Since I just purchased a 1TB BOLT whose software I will downgrade from 21.x to 20.7.4, will the 10TB Roamio disk (prepared as described above) also work when externally connected to the BOLT via a direct-connect SATA cable? If so, great!!!

    If not, is there a way to use MFSTools to prepare a 10TB BOLT compatible disk, while saving all of my recorded Roamio programs on it?

    Thanks for your help,
    Ron
     
  14. Jun 13, 2019 #74 of 230
    jmbach

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    Question 1 yes

    Question 2 No to retained recordings from a Roamio drive going into a Bolt. Only thing you can do is transfer recordings that are not copy protected from the Roamio to the Bolt via kmttg or direct transfer with both hooked to your network.
     
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  15. Jun 15, 2019 #75 of 230
    Ronald Pasqualini

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    Hi JM,

    Thanks very much for your reply. I really appreciate it.

    To be honest, I didn’t expect that a Roamio disk would work in a Bolt. Therefore, I will replace my 3TB Roamio with a new OTA 1TB Bolt, whose disk I will upgrade.

    I plan to downgrade the Bolt software from 21.x to 20.7.4. After I do this, can I use the MFSTools 3.3-devel ISO to upgrade the Bolt’s internal 1TB disk to an external WD Red 10TB disk, using a direct-connect SATA cable?

    Hopefully, someone has already done this while running 20.7.4. If so, is there a forum thread that describes how to do it?

    Thanks again for your help,
    Ron
     
  16. Jun 15, 2019 #76 of 230
    jmbach

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    It is the same procedure for either TiVo OS, just start with a working ToVo OS image 3 TB or smaller.
     
  17. Jun 15, 2019 #77 of 230
    Ronald Pasqualini

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    Hi JM,

    I sent my last post because I wanted to make absolutely sure that MFSTools 3.3 will support a 10TB WD Red disk directly connected to a Bolt running 20.7.4.

    In the past, after several unsuccessful tries, I discovered that MFSR would not support an 8TB disk running under 21.x on a Bolt, but it would support an 8TB disk running under 20.7.4 on a Bolt. Since I much prefer to use 20.7.4 (all my tivos run it), I am a happy camper!

    Thanks again!
    -Ron
     
  18. Jun 16, 2019 #78 of 230
    Ronald Pasqualini

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    Hi JM,

    As you know, the procedure for upgrading a new Bolt disk from 1TB to 10TB (without preserving any Bolt recordings) is slightly different from the procedure that I previously summarized for upgrading an existing 3TB Roamio disk to 10TB (including preserving the Roamio recordings).

    Thus I believe that the new procedure for upgrading a new 1TB Bolt disk to a new 10TB Bolt disk would be as follows:

    1) Connect my new 1TB Bolt to the Tivo service and get my All-In service key (Lifetime Service key) installed into internal flash memory.

    Make sure that the Bolt is working perfectly before proceeding with the next step.

    2) Downgrade the Bolt software from 21.x to 20.7.4

    Make sure that the Bolt is working perfectly before proceeding with the next step.

    3) Download the MFSTools 3.3-devel ISO and burn it to a CD (or DVD)

    4) Put my existing 1TB Bolt disk and my new 10TB disk into an external SATA dock

    5) Boot my computer from the MFSTools 3.3 CD

    6) Since my Tivo disk is 1TB, and I want to increase the disk capacity to 10TB, I need to copy (not clone) the 1TB disk to the new 10TB disk using MFSTools. (This copy actually creates a 4TB image on the 10TB disk).

    7) Put the 10TB disk back into the Bolt and make sure that it boots up properly, and that it successfully connects to the Tivo service.

    8) Remove the 10TB disk from the Bolt and put it back into the SATA dock

    9) Run the mfsadd -xm 2000 /dev/sdY command on the 10TB disk.

    10) Run the mfsaddfix /dev/sdY command on the 10TB disk

    11) Since steps 9 & 10 combined add 2TB of disk capacity, I can run them two more times to add a total of 6TB to the original 4TB of disk capacity (4+2+2+2=10TB)

    12) To be on the safe side, run Kickstart 58

    I also need to make sure that my dual SATA dock will handle 10TB disks.

    Finally, I have 3 questions:

    1) Is the above procedure correct?

    2) Where can I get the latest copy of MFSTools 3.3?

    3) Does a downloadable ISO image for MFSTools 3.3 exist for Windows, or will I have to create one.

    Thanks again for your help,
    Ron
     
  19. Jun 16, 2019 #79 of 230
    jmbach

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    1) The only difference is the copy command but even if you used the copy command to preserve the recordings, it would not make any difference in the end. Both have to start with a working TiVo drive.

    2) Look at post 8 in the MFSTools 3.2 thread to get to the ISO.

    3) see 2.
     
  20. Jul 17, 2019 #80 of 230
    jlin

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    I have a 6TB Roamio that keeps on running out of space. I have a shucked WD 10TB that I desperately want to use. Does anyone know of an easy way to upgrade without having to manually copy the shows between anther Tivo and not having to re-pair the CableCard that has been working flawlessly (I don't want Frontier's FIOS people to redo it).

    Any info much appreciated!
     

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