DIY 10TB Roamio

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  1. Jan 8, 2019 #41 of 216
    Cybernut

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    Thanks jmbach! Unfortunately I am stuck. Burnt the iso to a CD and booted off of the disc, with the 2 drives in a Thermaltake BlacX Duet dock (that I have used previously in all my tivo upgrade efforts with success) - but no matter what I tried, the drives don't show up at all. I see the laptop's SSD and the internal BDRE device, but not the drives on USB dock. I switched out the cables to use an USB 2.0 as well as on a separate attempt connected to the laptop's USB 2.0 port (after 3.0 port did not work) and no luck. The drives just don't show up. Not sure what else I can do at this point.
     
  2. Jan 9, 2019 #42 of 216
    jmbach

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    Boot the iso with only one drive in the dock and see if it can detect it. Then repeat the process with the other drive. Make sure it can read each drive individually. Then if it reads both drives, add the other drive in and see if it will read both drives. I dis have a situation once where the orientation of the drives made a difference on how the drives were seen by the computer.
     
  3. Jan 9, 2019 #43 of 216
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    Are you sure your Duet dock can handle 10TB drives? Some docks are supposedly limited on drive size. Not sure if you have a desktop computer available but always better to use direct connections to Sata ports on motherboard if possible. Some Easystore drives (when taken out of the original enclosure), will not be seen by certain computers without taping over one of the pins on the connector also. Or using a good quality molex to Sata power connector. Not sure if this is true when connecting through USB dock, maybe not since the original enclosure for those drives is USB. I must say though, I am not that familiar doing upgrades via USB toaster docks so I am guessing here. Definitely try what Jmbach suggests, try the drives one at a time in the dock, see if recognized, especially the 10TB. When I did my clone for the upgrade I was using a Sabrent dual dock that is supposed to handle up to 10TB drives. Never had to connect the dock to the computer though, just used it to clone, then performed the upgrade on the computer, only the larger drive connected.
     
  4. Jan 10, 2019 #44 of 216
    Cybernut

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    Thanks jmbach & tommage1 for the tips. Bit of good news - once I tried to use one drive at a time, I saw both drives were seen by Linux. So then I proceeded to put them back in the same order and this time BOTH were recognized. So what had happened earlier? I do not know for sure but my best guess is either one or both drives were not properly seated (despite me checking if they would come off by lifting each drive by the top individually and for both drives the whole dock with the other drive were lifted up).

    I have done step 1 (mfscopy) but here's the thing. My buddy sold me the tivo (with lifetime) for a buck because he mentioned his recordings were freezing up frequently during playback, and I suspected it was a case of bad sectors. And sure enough during the mfscopy, in 2-3 places the program complained about bad sector and then moved on. At the end of the process it did a cleanup. I am attaching a screenshot. Apologies for the slightly unfocused screenshot and the left portion cut off slightly.

    jmbach - Can you tell from the screenshot if it's okay to proceed to next step? Yes, I will put it back into the tivo and test but I am just concerned if the bad sectors when attempted to be copied onto target drive will create some unreadable sectors on target drive.

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  5. Jan 10, 2019 #45 of 216
    tommage1

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    Perhaps Jmbach can answer that from your screen. A possible solution would be get a clean image for your model, put it on a "good" drive, then upgrade that drive? Assuming you have a spare drive sitting around. Maybe test it first, using one of the free testing programs available, SeaTools, Crystal Disk, HDDScan etc. And test it in the Tivo before starting any upgrade procedure. Wouldn't hurt to scan your new 10TB too, even new drives can have issues.
     
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  6. Jan 10, 2019 #46 of 216
    jmbach

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    What I would do is put the drive in the TiVo and run a kickstart 58 on boot up. Hopefully that will fix any issues if the bad spots were in the OS section of the drive. Otherwise they are in the recording sect99n and you will just have a few bad recordings.

    After you do that, I would ring mfsck on the drive. It it passes that then I would go ahead with the rest of the process.
     
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  7. Jan 10, 2019 #47 of 216
    Cybernut

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    jmbach - So I put the new drive back in tivo (only the first step of mfscopy has been run at this point) and the tivo is in a GSOD loop...it reboots every 4-5 mins. I have been letting this reboot-show GSOD in 3-4 mins -reboot loop run for about 40 mins. I do not think it's really fixing anything, but I'll let this loop run for another 2 hrs, just in case it takes a while to work with a 10 TB drive.

    Any other advice?
    I am wondering what tommage1 wrote is a viable alternate - that is download a fresh tivo image, put it on a good 1TB drive (which I have), and then do the same steps I have done thus far (basically mfscopy 1TB to 10TB). In theory that sounds right...wondering if it will actually work.
     
  8. Jan 10, 2019 #48 of 216
    jmbach

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    Did you do a KS 58 or KS 57. For me a KS 57 always green screen boot loops. KS 58 generally fixes most things.

    If you do not need the recordings at all, use WD diagnostic and do a complete write and read on that 1 TB. That should mark and remap the bad spots. Put the 1 TB in the Roamio and go through setup. Then copy the drive to the 10 TB using MFSTools. Alternatively you can use any 4 TB or less drive you have handy instead of the 1 TB.

    Remember, Roamios will correctly format any drive that is 3TB or less.
     
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  9. Jan 11, 2019 #49 of 216
    Cybernut

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    I did a KS 58. Got the boot loop from that.

    I do not need any recordings....in fact, I did a C&DE on the 1TB before starting, so there are no recordings. I will try this step. I will have the bad spots marked and then put the 1TB back and run through setup. Then try to do the mfscopy to 10TB again. Hopefully that'll work. If it does not work, I do have a 1TB (my tivo Premiere's stock drive that I do not care keeping the image for any more - besides I can always get the Premiere image if needed from this forum) - so I will put that 1TB (after I format it as I don't know what'll happen if I put in the Premiere stock drive with the OS on the drive as-is) in the tivo and run guided setup and then use that 1TB for copying to 10TB.

    Thanks for the tips.
     
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  10. Jan 11, 2019 #50 of 216
    jmbach

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    Just need to do a quick write with WD diagnostic on that drive. You could use DvrBARS to back up the drive first to save the Premiere image.
     
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  11. Jan 11, 2019 #51 of 216
    Cybernut

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    Ok - thanks...but was not needed. Your tips from the previous comment worked.
    I fixed the Roamio 1TB drive using WD diagnostic after running extended test. Then did mfscopy (skipping the a switch). Then put the 10TB in and did a KS 58 and this time the green screen came on AND stayed on for a few minutes. That's when I knew it was actually doing some fixing. And then it rebooted just a minute ago and brought itself to the country screen of guided setup. I shall proceed onto the next steps from here and will post back with final results. Many thanks!
     
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  12. Jan 11, 2019 #52 of 216
    Cybernut

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    And success!! Thank you jmbach for a smooth and flawless method and for your generous help as always!!

    TivoSuccess.jpg
     
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  13. Jan 12, 2019 #53 of 216
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    A-freaking-mazing...
     
  14. Jan 12, 2019 #54 of 216
    tommage1

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    Just FYI I did run the KS 58. No problems. Since I had over 2K recordings figured why not to play it safe. KS 57s I do stay away from, ran one on an S3, now every time I power it up it reboots again after the initial start, kind of like it's running a 57 whenever I power it up. Does work ok after the second start though.
     
  15. Feb 15, 2019 #55 of 216
    Kishore

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    FYI you can buy 10TB WD 'Easystore' from Ebay/BB for $170 now- lowest price :)

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  16. Feb 15, 2019 #56 of 216
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    I'm a dunce, so I'm sure I'm missing the obvious, but... Following the above direction, and given that you can add 2 TB up to 3 times, does that mean if starting with having copied over a 3 TB drive, you only end up with 9 TB and not the full 10 TB (3+2+2+2=9)?
     
  17. Feb 15, 2019 #57 of 216
    Kishore

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    Jmbach started with a 4TB drive; so you will have to do one more addition if your start with 3TB...
     
  18. Feb 15, 2019 #58 of 216
    jmbach

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    It depends on how you copy the 3 TB image to the 10 TB drive. If you clone the image, then yes. If you use the mfscopy command as outlined in the post, you will have 10 TB because the command creates a 4 TB image on the 10 TB drive out of your 3 TB image.
     
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  19. Feb 16, 2019 #59 of 216
    sliderbob

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    On my Roamio Plus, if I take out my already upgraded 4tb drive and clone it to a 8tb drive, will I need to get my cablecard paired again with Xfinity or will the Tivo have kept the info in memory and it will be good to go?
     
  20. Feb 16, 2019 #60 of 216
    jmbach

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    The cableCARD pairing is preserved.
     
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