Disney's The Black Hole

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  1. hairyblue

    hairyblue A good Man

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    I remember seeing this as a young teen. I just rewatched it on Disney+. It seems very outdated compared to a movie like Star Wars. The story is very dark for Disney and effects were good for the day I guess. The dialogue was silly at times and used slang that seemed old even for the late 70's. It has a lot of big star talent in the movie.

    I'm glad I got to see it again. Anyone else remember The Black Hole?
     
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  2. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    If I recall correctly, The Black Hole was Disney's first film to receive a PG rating. I loved the movie as a kid. I was seven years old when I saw it in the theater, and Maximillion the evil robot scared the crap out of me. Those other faceless robots were pretty freaky as well.
     
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  3. kaszeta

    kaszeta Ceci n'est pas une conserve TCF Club

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    I actually think that’s good remake fodder. There’s a decent movie concept hiding in there someplace, but they got sloppy making that movie
     
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  4. SullyND

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    Thats true - The Black Cauldron was the first Disney animated movie to be PG, and is also on Disney+

    The Black Cauldron (film) - Wikipedia
     
  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    That was one of the few movies I was ever tempted to walk out on...if it weren't for the investment in concessions I would have.
     
  6. terpfan1980

    terpfan1980 It's Just TV TCF Club

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    I agree, though how much work it would take to get rid of the slop and leave themselves a better script/movie is also a bit scary. I liked the movie when I was younger, and look forward to watching it again soon, but expect I'll be disappointed like others here have been.
     
  7. wmcbrine

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    I think the styling was intentionally retro, patterned after movies like Forbidden Planet.

    I never thought The Black Hole was a very good movie, but I still plan to rewatch it, too.

    BTW, the remake is called Event Horizon. It's not great, either.
     
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  8. LlamaLarry

    LlamaLarry Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Definitely this. I had a Maximillian model soon after the movie came out.
     
  9. Malcontent

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    I had the 'The Black Hole' lunch box as a kid. I don't remember why I wanted it. Maybe because it had pictures of robots on it. I'm pretty sure I didn't see the movie until it made it's way to tv.

    The lunch box is long gone but I still have the thermos (without lid). It was in the back of my parents kitchen cabinet for years. They were going to throw it out a few years ago but I kept it for some reason. I have no idea why.
     
  10. Craigbob

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    This was the first thing I watched on Disney + after the Manalorian premiere. I hadn't seen it since the '80s (I saw it on opening night in the theaters).

    The effects hold up pretty well, and the story is basically 20,000 leagues under the sea except set in space.

    For the time it had some pretty big names in the cast.
     
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  11. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

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    Saw this when I was a kid. I had some models I built of the robots and ship... I don't remember too much about the plot though.
     
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  12. Odds Bodkins

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    Black Hole score is incredible as well.
     
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  13. rharmelink

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    I hated it. A waste of my time. Gave it a 2/10 rating on IMDB.
     
  14. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    The Black Hole still hasn't had a Blu-Ray release or a proper remastering. But it's been on digital for a while, and I rented it a few years ago. Whatever nostalgic fondness I had for TBH died when I re -watched it. Not even the vfx stand up, it has some of the worst blue screen ever committed to film.

    I built the models too, I was crazy for it when I was ten y.o..

    The main theme is catchy, but I got sick of that cheesy hero theme and the rest in mind-numbingly repetitive. And I love John Barry's stuff too, just can't live TBH.
     
  15. DougF

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    Loved it as a kid. Saw it a few years ago on demand on Dish and....well, let's just say I didn't love it as much. Some really corny stuff going on at times. But, I like the score and the effects were really good for the time. I read something years ago about the camera system created specifically for this movie.

    It's been a few years, but I did see some news about a remake. I don't think it got very far, though.
     
  16. kaszeta

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    I know that several years ago Joseph Kosinski was working on a remake after his success with Tron: Legacy. But I also expect that since Star Wars is now in-house at Disney, they aren't as excited about another Sci-Fi property.
     
  17. dianebrat

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    I find The Black Hole very interesting for a lot of reasons, but it's not a very good movie, and VINCENT and BOB are so far down the kids toy spectrum especially with the fact their "high tech" eyes failed in preproduction and they just have stickers there. It's also interesting that it was one vestiges of the old Hollywood studio system.

    Pro:
    The good but overly repetitive John Barry score,
    The opening CGI that was the longest in a film at the time
    The impressive model work
    The "name" actors that weren't as big a names as they could have been
    The semblance of a plot
    The overture

    Con:
    The Disneyification of the movie
    Disney trying to make Star Wars without understanding it

    There's a good movie buried in there, too bad it never saw the light of day.
     
  18. mr.unnatural

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    IIRC, this was Disney's first attempt at big special effects that were introduced with the first Star Wars movie. Another one that came out at the time was Firefox with Clint Eastwood. They both relied more on special effects than a quality plot.
     
  19. dianebrat

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    and amazingly this pops up in my music playlist today

    "Further Explorations Into the Black Hole" - Z-Trip
     
  20. smbaker

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    Loved the movie as a kid. I even recall having some sort of a book that was made from the movie.

    I'm surprised the comparisons to Event Horizon and Star Wars, as I don't recall it being remotely similar to either one of those. It was primarily a film about piracy, murder, and an obsessed mad scientist. Only at the end of the film does the crew actually go through the black hole and we have some supernatural imagery.

    I'm looking forward to watching it again.
     

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