Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by ghartler, Jun 22, 2019.

  1. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    This is the heart of the matter. The Edge should have been a box we all wanted to replace our Bolts and Roamios. Dolby Vision is not enough to make us want to pull the trigger. Edge really needed to be an equal to Roku or a Fire box. Advanced streaming along with the audio and video upgrades would have made it a great piece of equipment.
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  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    Exactly. A handful of shows/movies on Netflix in HDR are not going to get me to pay over $1k to upgrade. ($1,022.82 when I just added it to my cart with lifetime)

    TiVo has jumped the shark. They've had chances to stay ahead of the game and they've blew them all.

    The Edge should have either been an Android TV box with access to the Play Store or it should have been a Tablo like device where you control it using an app on one of the popular streaming devices. That's something I would have upgraded to. As-is it's useless to me.
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  3. wco81

    wco81 Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    San Jose, CA
    That's what I was wondering. I imagine it's got a faster processor than my Roamio so maybe it does better with streaming to the mobile device apps.

    Otherwise ...

    If subscribing to 3-4 streaming services become common, then demand for timeshiftimg OTA or cable will just decline.
  4. Aaron Malloy

    Aaron Malloy Member

    Oct 30, 2019
    So those with OTAs are cheapskates? I've been off cable and satellite for almost a decade, not because I couldn't afford it, but because it was foolish to throw so much money away for so many channels that I'm not even watching. But there is plenty of local and national programming that I like to record and the OTA makes it all the breeze. And it has all the main streaming apps, which makes it that much better.

    I imagine there are still many like me who are drawn to the OTA. I don't see it fading away too quickly.
  5. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2002
    FWIW Disney + won't cast, using built in chromecast, to Vizio sets. Casting from an apple device works.
  6. fyodor

    fyodor Active Member

    Sep 19, 2006
    Yeah, I don't know if I agree about streaming/OTA being different markets. It seems like a lot of people like getting their network TV free and then adding streaming content. The whole idea behind the FTV recast is to allow for that kind of integration. Many of the commercial OTA recording/streaming products are designed to allow integration with media streamers.
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  7. Lurker1

    Lurker1 Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2004
    It is cable/satellite that is fading away. The new normal is free OTA + streaming rotation.
  8. Charles R

    Charles R Active Member

    Nov 9, 2000
    I've been OTA (Only) for several years and I'm getting closer and closer to dropping it. The combination of "newer" content such as YouTube/Twitch/other free streams along with the complete "destruction" of the image quality (via subchannels) has reduced my OTA viewing considerably.

    I'd guess it's down roughly 50% compared to a year or two ago. If I wasn't an old fart I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even mess with it... I know all of my "young" relatives certainly don't. Netflix has pretty much replaced the broadcast networks while other streams only cement the issue further. Before long OTA will only be a lost memory. :)
  9. Lurker1

    Lurker1 Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2004
    What does it mean to "drop" OTA? Even if you subscribe to other TV sources, you still have free OTA too (unless you take down your antenna or something).
  10. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

    May 7, 2006
    What does any of this have to do with Disney+?
  11. Lurker1

    Lurker1 Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2004
    Nothing. This forum really should display the thread title near the reply box. I didn't know this thread was about Disney+, and I apologize.
  12. Charles R

    Charles R Active Member

    Nov 9, 2000
    How and why Disney+ may or may not be successful. :)

    Means no longer having an OTA DVR and replacing with it online streaming perhaps Disney+... however in my case zero interest in Disney+.
  13. wco81

    wco81 Member

    Dec 28, 2001
    San Jose, CA
    Other than NFL and NBA broadcasts, and to a lesser extent, MLB, local stations are struggling to stay relevant.

    A lot of them are using sub channels for diginets, these networks which acquired the rights to a lot of old old shows that streaming services like Netflix hasn't bothered with.

    Remains to be seen how many of them will really invest in upgrading to ATSC 3.0. Even if they do, the broadcast networks haven't indicated any interest in creating content in 4K HDR. Even 1080p HDR would be a huge improvement but there's no move toward that either.

    NFL in 4K and HDR would attract a lot of viewers but probably not enough to make a huge difference. Only difference might be fewer people willing to spend a lot of money going to actual NFL games, if they can see a big improvement in picture and sound of NFL broadcasts.

    So it doesn't look like NFL games will lead people to adopt 4K HDR TVs in greater numbers than they have, or get cable TV systems to upgrade their infrastructure. Of course this is bad news for Tivo, as the installed base doesn't have a compelling reason to buy new Tivo hardware and subscriptions.
  14. Salacious Crumb

    Salacious Crumb Member

    Jan 1, 2019
    Pequannock, NJ
    Does anyone know if they edit eps ??
    Like the simpsons treehouse eps have parts edited out on tv to fit more commercials.
  15. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

    Jun 1, 2007
    Haven't seen any edits in the half dozen Simpsons episodes I've seen. But that's the only episodic stuff I'm watching on Disney+ right now.

    Haven't seen "Deep Space Homer" in over a decade. The 600 Quatloos joke is still there.
  16. dadrepus

    dadrepus Active Member

    Jan 4, 2012
    We do OTA and Streaming but we use the Roku and Apple TV for streaming cause the Tivo Apps are too slow, haven't been updated for a while. We still watch a lot of OTA, record mostly the evening shows to watch later and watch news and Games live on the weekends. Oh, Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy live every night, live.
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  17. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    I now have a Disney+ bug in the lower right corner on my Sharp/Roku TV. It's always there. Just checked. My Roku Ultra has it also.
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2019
  18. tmcgow1

    tmcgow1 New Member

    Mar 15, 2018
    NO Disney for Tivo. This came from ESPN technical support who is launching the streaming service. After previewing for a week it's pretty ho hum stuff. Watching a classic one time a year is not worth it. Otherwise it's just a rerun of Disney TV channel. Shame on Tivo for not creating partnership nonetheless.
  19. kermit88

    kermit88 New Member

    Feb 12, 2012
    I think it is silly that Tivo can't get Disney to help make an app for the service. I am not satisfied that this app is not available on my Tivo.

    I think Tivo should read there own sales pitch and create the plugin so we watch the app.

    JACKASTOR Active Member

    May 26, 2011
    I think it’s up to Disney to produce a TiVo app for their service.
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