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  1. Nov 12, 2019 #81 of 143
    SullyND

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    Yeah, definitely not, except for that whole TiVo already having android based units.

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    Dan203

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    HME is dead. It was discontinued many years ago when TiVo adopted the HTML5 app platform on the Premiere hardware. I think they even cut off community developed HME apps recently. There was a site that hosted some HME games and I'm pretty sure they shut it down last year because TiVo completely discontinued support.

    HME was a weird technology. It basically rendered the whole UI on the host and then presented it to the TiVo as a video stream/photo. It was a way to get apps to run on really, really, under powered hardware.

    They also tried a couple of Flash based apps on the Premiere but those were dog slow and then Flash was discontinued by Adobe so that's when they settled on HTML5.

    Their newest MSO hardware actually runs on Android TV and supports the Google Play Store, so that's the direction they're heading in the future.
     
  3. Nov 12, 2019 #83 of 143
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    At this point I think TiVo is just spinning in random shapes these days, sometimes resembling circular or spiral patterns. I don't see them doing anything to differentiate a potential offering surrounding the streaming services we see prevalent and gaining market today. I'm not sure they even could anymore (there was a time they could have gained a foothold on developing more reactive interfaces, especially concerning trick-play style features, but now I don't think that's anywhere near enough a tech improvement to make them relevant in the streaming space). The best they can come up with would be to coexist with other ecosystems on a single device. And somehow I suspect this will play out more on other people's devices than on TiVo-sold devices, if simply for their absolutely dismal track record on apps.

    We'll probably eventually see them create a fancy remote control and sell that as their primary product, a la Universal Remote and Logitech/Harmony. And dropping the video platform entirely and just licensing to the micro-market cable systems, letting subscriptions just die off of their own accord then dumping the remaining lifetime subscribers.
     
  4. Nov 12, 2019 #84 of 143
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    It'll be interesting to see how many of these streaming services are around 5 years from now and how much of the money spent on TV they capture.

    If they accelerate cord-cutting, it's probably bad news for Tivo, since they're not going to produce a better streaming box on the high end than Apple or Nvidia and Roku may rule the low end, with the rest being content to hook up their "smart TVs" which is only smart in how it spies and throws ads at them.
     
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    Except what is that exactly? Where is something authoritive describing it? I find the following (also not authoritive) which is quite different from what I was describing (using Android in a Tivo DVR box).
    The Variety article says it may not record television at all and likely not include a TV tuner.
     
  6. Nov 12, 2019 #86 of 143
    Dan203

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    You might be right. They’ve completely lost their way. I'm pretty disappointed that the "new" Edge is really no different, other than a few more MIPS, than the Bolt they released 3 years ago. Once a leader, they're now standing still and letting technology pass them by.
     
  7. Nov 12, 2019 #87 of 143
    wco81

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    Isn't that more about TV just being stagnant?

    The delivery mechanisms are stuck but Tivo depends on them to develop new technology, i.e. UHD HDR content.

    They got nothing to bring to the streaming video space, which isn't being done already by several giant competitors with way more resources.
     
  8. Nov 12, 2019 #88 of 143
    Dan203

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    They could combine an OTA DVR with a Caavo type service that blends all the various streaming services/devices together.
     
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    wco81

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    But are most Tivo owners watching OTA or cable?

    Even with cord cutting, I don't think the OTA viewership is that much larger than a few years ago?

    In any event, seems like OTA and streaming are serving two different types of viewers, the former more price-sensitive.
     
  10. Nov 13, 2019 #90 of 143
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    It’s a DVR.
     
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    I believe it's about time shifting what you watch; recorded or streamed content when you want it. The challenge for streaming service is just than, providing the content the customer wants when they want it. Recorded content that I can capture and watch commercial free when I want still works best for me. But I do add a dash of streaming content to fill in the holes.
     
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    On a different note...I thought episode 1 of The Mandalorian was pretty good!
     
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  13. Nov 13, 2019 #93 of 143
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    Yup... old and new content.... If it can stay up long enough... They are having issues now...
     
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    Is it worth the cost?
     
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    Diana Collins

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    We have a year free (Verizon Wireless Unlimited customer) and I'm not sure I'd pay $7/month for one show. But by this time next year they'll have enough new content to make it worthwhile for a year.

    But if you have kids that are into Disney movies, or haven't seen a sizable number of the movies and shows in their back catalog, it is probably worth it.

    Of course, Simpsons fans will have to subscribe. ;)
     
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    wco81

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    Yeah I'd probably wait until there's a full season or a couple of original shows.

    Also haven't seen End Game yet so I can wait to watch that in UHD HDR glory, if I don't get a UHD Blu Ray.

    But someone on AVS reported that Apple + has about 50% higher average bitrate than Disney +, which is a little better than Netflix.
     
  17. Nov 13, 2019 #97 of 143
    Dan203

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    I got some deal a while back where it cost like $30 for 3 years. At <$1/mo I think it's worth it. When that runs out and they want $10/mo (or whatever it is) from me I'll probably cancel.
     
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  18. Nov 13, 2019 #98 of 143
    tommiet

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    I got it for less than $4.00 a month.... My wife is happy, so YES its worth it.
     
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    For whatever its worth, someone on Twitter asked TiVo Support when Disney + would be available as an app and they responded there is no timeline for adding it.
     
  20. JACKASTOR

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    ONTARIO,...
    That’s just a different way for them to say NFI ..
     
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