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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Jul 31, 2007.
That brings an interesting question. I have 2 R-10s, R-15 and HR20. Am I TiVo sub or DirecTV sub? My DVR fee covers both TiVo and non-TiVo DVRs. All of my DVRs are purchased, not leased if it makes a difference. To complicate an issue,
I first purchased R-15 and my initial DVR fee was setup to use it. Two days later I added 2 R-10s, and few months later HR20. Does TiVo get paid for my sub? Does it matter what brand DVR was first on a account?
If you have a DirecTV box, ANY box, that runs the TiVo software then TiVo gets paid for the subscription - about $1.11 a month or so as of the last public figures. You're counted as a DirecTV subscriber by DirecTV *and* as a non-TiVo-owned subscriber by TiVo. (TiVo-owned subscribers are standalone box owners who's subscription is directly with TiVo - your sub is with DirecTV and only with TiVo by proxy.)
You are both...
Part of your DVR fee would be going to TiVo
TiVo get's their "share" of the DVR fee, if you have atleast 1 DTiVo installed and enabled.
I wouldn't call $1.11 their share, but a contract is a contract. Hope Tom doesn't give away the farm this next contract.
"Share" of the DVR Service fee, that is defined by the contract.
The "contract" didn't dictate the DVR Service fee (As a whole), it only dictated what TiVo was to get per subscription of a TiVo on DirecTV (with regards to share)
Compared to what DirecTV charges, throwing $1.11 to TiVo is so small it's ludicrous. Whoever negotiated that deal for DirecTV should have been given a huge bonus. It'll probably be "water cooler" talk at DirecTV for the next 20 years!
I disagree. TiVo is getting about 18% of the $6 DVR charge as a royalty for their software. That seems like a fair deal all around.
I think you are more likely to see TiVo software on the HR20 than a completely new box if the DirecTV/TiVo relationship is restored. This would preserve DirecTV's investment in the HR20 hardware. Remember, TiVo is a software company that reluctantly designs hardware for contract manufacturers to produce.
I dunno how hard would it be to modify the series 3 to accept a smart card as well as/instead of a cable card?
For my household DirecTV only pays TiVo their paltry $1.11 (or thereabouts) for the entire household. Yet DirecTV gets an extra $15 from me for the three extra boxes I added only because of TiVo. Your analysis doesn't take that into account. I wouldn't have 4 active boxes in one house unless they were DVRs. I wouldn't have 2 boxes in one family room unless they were DVRs. What would be the point?