DirecTV/TiVo to update DTivos. (See they haven't completely given up on DTiVo)

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by ebonovic, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. jmoak

    jmoak Beware of Conky!

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    awww, yeah, but it's just better hearing it from you, dude.

    Your directv contacts are better than mine ever were!
    :)
     
  2. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    Even the series 1 standalone boxes never progressed past the 4.x software.
     
  3. Billy Bob Boy

    Billy Bob Boy What Me Worry???????

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    You all better get your phone lines ready :p The update comes from the sat but the phone activate. :up:
     
  4. lancelot

    lancelot New Member

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    Well, perhaps Directv finally gets it--that many of us are with Directv because of TIVO--that the HR20 and R15 have caused them countless returns and countless calls due to lock ups, missed recordings, and other problems. The minute (if/when) Directv comes out with new Directivos, my Hr20s are being shipped back.
     
  5. Gunnyman

    Gunnyman Just a boring dude

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    unless you know how to do it manually :D
     
  6. Clarkey

    Clarkey We Get Signal

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    Why they would announce a plan to provide a future software update to hardware that will eventually be useless with the MPEG4 stream is beyond me. At least, that's how I see it (I could be wrong). In saying that...

    Imagine two DVR options, a "premium" (DirecTiVo) unit for say $9.99 and the current "generic" offerings for $5.99? :D
     
  7. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    Because the standard definition stream is not MPEG-4 :rolleyes:
     
  8. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    The "remote booking" feature could be delivered over the satellite and not require a network connection. There would be no way to confirm it (unless the satellite info triggered a call). I doubt that DirecTV will enable the USB ports, but I'd love to be proved wrong.
     
  9. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Tinley...
    One thing to remember: before you all read "into it" too much...

    It is in both DirecTV's and TiVo, Inc's best intrest to keep those 4,000,000ish SA TiVo subscribers....

    There probably isn't a lot of cost involved in upgrading these SD DTiVos and keeping them running for a while to come... at least until their HardDrives start to die.

    The HD version... even with this upgrade (which I don't know if it is going to happen to the HR10-250), no software update will allow it to see the other two sats and decode the MPEG-4...

    And to design, build, test, deploy a new System... which you imagin would have to be updated to support all the current New and proposed DirecTV features (Interactive, VOD, MRV, Media Sharing, and others)... it would cost a LOT of $$$$ and time to do so...
     
  10. Clarkey

    Clarkey We Get Signal

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    I thought over time, "everything" would be done via MPEG4. Or am I confusing the type of compression with instead HD broadcasts replacing SD broadcasts?
     
  11. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    For the foreseeable future standard definition will remain mpeg-2. The cost to DirecTV to replace millions of standard definition receivers would be to large.
     
  12. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    Good news for Series 2 DirecTivos. Have 2 myself.

    Just an FYI that that HR20 has been networked enabled for some time, nearly since release. The R15 however isn't.
     
  13. kschauwe

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    Bowling...
    They better hurry, Rupert is buying Dow Jones.
     
  14. Redux

    Redux No intent to annoy

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    I'm afraid it's going to happen, eb. The Golden Age of DirecTV under the inspired leadership of the FoxMaster is coming to a conclusion.

    We'll all understand if you want to take a few days off, to come to terms with it, get yourself together.
     
  15. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Tinley...
    Why is there a "afraid it's going to happen"....
    When have I ever given the impression that I am worried about it?
    It has been well known, for almost a year that this was going on...
    At the end of the day... it is just stocks and money...

    This isn't the local Mom/Pop shop being bought up by a larger company.
    This is swap of stocks, to someone that has a history of changing his holdings...
    Liberty Media Corporation, has it's hands in a lot of different "pies"....

    You are under the impresion that Malone is going to move into the top office at DirecTV in LA, and start to oversee and control the daily operations... and make sweeping changes.

    But I am afraid, that you are still under delusion that the company is going to an about face, once that stock swap has completed....

    It has already been stated, the people responsible for DirecTV Group... are still the same people.

    So come to grips with the fact that DirecTV is just a company, that has share holders... and has a board... that will discuss the EXACT SAME pro's and con's of forging a new relationship with TiVo that has been around for a while now.

    It is possible that you should take a few days... to collect your thoughts, to come to grips on reality of the situation... not wishfull thinking.
     
  16. Tivoli

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    I think it is little more than glimmer, I think it is a sign of things to come, much more significant. I want to hear about a new HD Tivo DVR for DTV :up: :up: :up:
     
  17. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Tinley...
    Similar statements where made when the contract was extended, and the 6.x software updates were released.....

    Could the third time be the charm? Or the final piece to the story...
     
  18. Tivoli

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    Yes, I hope third time is the charm. I'd not want to read too much into this:

    But it is one indication that there is more to it. The words were spoken by VP of Content strategy, it may mean content via the net? Amazon?, or may be ad content? Or all things Tivo technology can offer. It makes sense in terms of business. DTV is in business to make money and they do not need to include NDS in the equation, which clouded the picture for DTV before. Now DTV can play without being tied to NDS, offer more options and let the market choose the best DVR.

    Another point to keep in mind is Tivo patents, (against which the previous agreement gave an insurance to DTV, until 2010). Once that is settled it is going to be a different landscape in DVR world.
     
  19. tbeckner

    tbeckner TiVo Fan

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    Earl,

    Remember my post of a little over a week ago,

    But then again, "Patience is a virtue!" or "Good things come to those who wait!".

    ...

    "Patience is a virtue. The ability to wait for something without excessive frustration is a valuable character trait. The proverb has been traced back to 'Piers Plowman' (1377) by William Langland and is similar to the Latin, Maxima enim..patientia virtus (Patience is the greatest virtue) and the French, Patience est une grant vertu. (Patience is a great value.) Some ten years after Langland, Chaucer wrote in 'The Canterbury Tales' (1386) that 'Patience is a high virtue.' Sometimes followed by the wry rejoinder 'but virtue can hurt you.' First cited in the United States in 1724 in the 'Works of Thomas Chalkley' (1766)..."


    Of course, this could be the first step of many to come.

    A week ago even you ("the Great Earl") wouldn't have predicted this, would you?

    I believe this is more in-line towards realizing that "TiVo" and Comcast, Moxi, and others are just around the corner in the cable world, and there are still many more DirecTiVos installed than all of the other DirecTV DVR's and will be for many years to come.

    It is very unlikely that the DirecTV DVR will even come close to 10% of all DirecTV DVR's installed within the foreseeable future, so the DirecTiVos are going to be around for a long time, and somebody at DirecTV finally woke up.

    :)
     
  20. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Tinley...
    Yes, I remember a your post... and again... I am not knocking the additions of the features... it is a great thing for those 2.5 (or is 4) million SD DTiVos out there.

    As for the population of DirecTV DVR's... Not sure where you are getting that number... but there are definitively more than that installed. Hopefully a number will be provided in the quarterly update next week.

    As for me predicting it:
    Actually... a week ago... I would have... two weeks ago... no.. :D
     

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