DirecTV TiVo may finally ship in April or May

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by gimp, Jan 14, 2011.

  1. Dec 8, 2011 #621 of 669
    Cudahy

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    Just called, my new HDTivo will be installed noon tommorow!
    The person I talked to didn't even realize it was available till after I called.
    Siince I already have DirecTV there was only an extra 5 dollar a month fee.
     
  2. Dec 8, 2011 #622 of 669
    wluebke

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    Weeee, Weeee, Weeee! (All the way home)

    Out of nowhere I receive an email from DTV today that the long awaited Tivo HD DVR is available to order in the Phoenix market.

    Forever the optimist, I stubbornly kept alive two 10-250 receivers for this day. A quick call to retention reminding them of the deal I had in place to replace both of my 10-250's with new HD Tivo units "the day" they became available landed me the ... "we never promised you that".

    Allow me to retort: CANCEL MY SERVICE! (Those are the magic words)

    In reality I was only giving DTV till the end of 2011 to produce the HD Tivo units, so canceling my service was not an empty threat. I actually made them start the process. Figuring I was serious they offered 1 free HD Tivo. No go! I was promised 2 free Tivo units. I reminded them that it was DTV who rendered my 10-250's obsolete after spending $1100 to acquire them. They countered with a $300 credit. No! Finally they offered $300 towards the purchase of 2 THR22's and $20 a month for 1 year. Final offer, yes final offer! I caved in and accepted as we are talking financial semantics at this point.

    Looks like DTV's bottom line is $50 for each new HD Tivo receiver plus shipping, tax and 2 year commitment. My grand total up front cost was $139 for both receivers.

    Best of luck with your negotiations!
     
  3. Dec 8, 2011 #623 of 669
    SpacemanSpiff

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    I had several D* installers at my work today putting in sat tv to replace local cable. I mentioned the new TiVo unit and they were like um that doesn't exist.

    Maybe I'm not in one of the top 10 markets. But ya know, they should know what's coming soon to our area.
     
  4. Dec 8, 2011 #624 of 669
    Whistlingleaf

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    I haven't logged into this forum in 3 years, but I regularly have checked this thread and today

    OH

    MY

    GOD

    !!!

    These are the markets listed in the email:


    The TiVo HD DVR from
    DIRECTV is available today
    in these ten markets:

    · Chicago, IL
    · Denver, CO
    · Los Angeles, CA
    · New York, NY
    · Philadelphia, PA
    · Phoenix, AZ
    · Sacramento, CA
    · San Francisco, CA
    · Seattle, WA
    · Washington, D.C.

    Available nationwide in early 2012

    I can't believe TIVO finally sent out any email at all regarding the TIVO... in all these years since I signed up with them to receive info I never got a thing til today ... ridiculous IMO

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    FYI the THR22 Model can record ~400 hours of SD (~100 hours of HD)

    Also for those who do not have HD already they will hit you with a 10$ HD charge and a 5$ Tivo charge along with the 7$ DTV DVR Service Monthly. So 22$/month in extra charges which is ridiculous IMO.

    I was nice and told the lady money was tight and she offered to lower the Tivo from 199 to 150 and give me 10$ off for 6 months.

    Oh and the unit is leased ... 200$ for a leased unit ... considering we've had the same owned Tivo unit since 1997 or so making it a leased is a slap in the face.

    Last edit was to fix Steves point that the email was from TIVO not DTV.
     
  5. Dec 8, 2011 #625 of 669
    stevel

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    The email I got was from TiVo, not DirecTV.
     
  6. Dec 8, 2011 #626 of 669
    BOBCAT

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    wluebke,
    Are you sure that they will ship you the THR22's?
    I have been told by D* time and time again that they could not specify the model of DVR as a replacement if I ordered one directly from them. I wanted an HR24 and time and time again they told me the only way I could get it was to have them send an installer out with it. If I had them ship one from the warehouse, I could get most any model such as a HR20 and most likely it would be a refurbished unit. I tried many times to get a HR24 including going to retention and telling them that I was going to go to cable or Dish. They insisted that they could only get me the unit that I wanted by having their installer deliver it, and it would cost me the $49 install fee.
    They also said that I could just go to a outside dealer and buy the unit that I wanted.
    Hope you get the THR22, and not some other DVR.
    You might give them a call back and verify what they are going to send you.
    Good luck.
     
  7. Dec 8, 2011 #627 of 669
    stevel

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    In the case of the THR22, you can specify that because there is an extra charge for it and it is not interchangeable with the HR2x models.
     
  8. Dec 8, 2011 #628 of 669
    BOBCAT

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    Thanks Steve.
    When I ordered my THR22, they said that an installer had to bring it out.
    Will call them tomorrow and try to get them to ship it to me and cancel the installer visit.
     
  9. Dec 8, 2011 #629 of 669
    Whistlingleaf

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    Anyone have some info the the THR22 aside from DTV's webpage ? (web links?)

    And the DTV rep definitely told me it would be the THR22.

    Also since it is being leased - what happens if it breaks ? I've gone through 3 harddrives in 13-14 years or so and always gotten new ones off Ebay.

    I can't get over how much they want for a leased unit - I wonder if it's possible to buy the unit ?

    Why do they charge a DTV DVR Service fee AND a TIVO fee ? Isn't kinda ridiculous to have 2 fees for 1 thing ?
     
  10. Dec 8, 2011 #630 of 669
    wluebke

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    It's like going home to bang the prom queen!

    Winner winner chicken dinner!

    HD Tivo DVR is here!

    Personally I don't care if Ronald McDonald delivers the HD Tivo's!

    Just as long as they arrive!

    I'm stoked, and if you're not ... who cares!

    Not only that but the Steelers just won Thursday night football!

    So there!

    (Even though I had to watch it in "Low D") .......... not for long however ..................
     
  11. Dec 9, 2011 #631 of 669
    litzdog911

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    1. http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.as...O-THR22-High-Definition-MPEG-4-HD-DVR-(THR-22)

    2. If it breaks they'll send you a replacement. They're free if you have DirecTV's Equipment Protection Plan. Otherwise ~$20 for shipping.

    3. I doubt you'll find them as "owned". But why do that? You would pay substantially more up front and have no replacement protection beyond the 90-day warranty.

    4. Because that's the agreement DirecTV has with Tivo.
     
  12. Dec 9, 2011 #632 of 669
    CuriousMark

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    Nowhere in the posted redacted contract language does it say this. You are speculating or relying on posts of others who were speculating.

    The agreement does require DirecTV to pay a fee to TiVo for each DVR. The old agreement for the HR10's also had a fee requirement, but the amount in the older agreement was lower (under $1 per box per month). In the case of the HR10's DirecTV did not pass the cost of the fee along to the subscriber. With the new DirecTV TiVo they are passing it along (and a bit more, apparently). Analysts are currently estimating the fee to be in the $2 to $3 per month range, but even they are guessing based on interpreting TiVo's financial statements.
     
  13. Dec 9, 2011 #633 of 669
    davezatz

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    I also believe higher subscription commissions, versus the prior relationship/deal, were mentioned in a quarterly call.
     
  14. Dec 9, 2011 #634 of 669
    wluebke

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    I need 5 posts to add links.
     
  15. Dec 9, 2011 #635 of 669
    wluebke

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    Countdown.
     
  16. Dec 9, 2011 #636 of 669
    wluebke

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    You know I started thinking about the how everyone is saying the THR 22 is stunted from about 2 years ago software-wise. Personally I will be completely happy with the "classic" Tivo interface and the new HD capability. I just love the Tivo interface compared to my HR20 DVR which continues to be clunky in comparison ... no matter how "used to it" I have become.

    However according to a Weaknees blog, hardware-wise there is no reason the TRH 22 could not be software upgraded to include some of the newer tricks.

    http://www.wkblog.com/tivo/2011/12/the-directv-tivo-is-finally-out-sort-of/

    "On the minus side, no Whole Home DVR (also called Multi-Room Viewing, or MRV), no NOMAD or iPad support, no 3D, and some other issues. Now, this unit is capable, hardware-wise, of these options, so there’s a chance that TiVo and DIRECTV will update the software to enable these features over time. But, given the slow pace of software development on this project thus far, we aren’t holding our breath."

    One hardware trick the THR 22 currently has up its sleeve ... onboard OTA tuner. (Not confirmed but DTV states - 1 RF internal antenna)
    http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/content/technology/tivo_receiver

    I currently use the the OTA tuner to watch sports with my 10-250, mainly because this is the only HD programming I left available. However back in the day I discovered the OTA HD picture is superior to the DTV HD when I use my projector and 120" screen. I plan to continue to use this capability even after my THR 22's arrive.

    I am sure there are at least a couple of new software tricks the THR 22 can perform out of the box. I will give an update as soon as I get my hands on the actual units.
     
  17. Dec 9, 2011 #637 of 669
    Cudahy

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    The installer will be here in the next 2 hours.
     
  18. Dec 9, 2011 #638 of 669
    litzdog911

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    There is no "THR23". It's the THR22, because it's built on the HR22 hardware platform.

    There is no built-in off-air tuner. The THR22 supports the AM21 USB-based Off-Air Tuner Accessory.
     
  19. Dec 9, 2011 #639 of 669
    lamontcranston

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    Litzdog is, of course, right. The internal RF antenna refers to the ability to use an RF remote.
     
  20. Dec 9, 2011 #640 of 669
    Lord Vader

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    Let's just hope it's faster and better than the HR22, because the HR22 was the single worst of all the HR2X series DVRs--slow as molasses in January!
     

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