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Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by oregondean, Dec 8, 2011.
Hopefully down the road, D* will have the HR24 ported with the TiVo operating system.
Unlikely. Unless the THR22 sells like hotcakes.
I was about to respond, rightfully, that I never called Tivo's lawyers incompetent. But thinking over the DISH case, yeah they are. Salvaged a minor (but admittedly very significant) victory from a slam dunk annihilation of DISH because they were cowed and let Charlie control the agenda in the face of a weak judge.
Other than that, I agree 100% with everything you said in that post; a good summary.
I would be curious if this box supports the TiVo slide remote.
No compatibility with TiVo remotes.
Without Whole Home DVR the new DirecTiVo is a non starter for me. I much prefer the TiVo interface and I love the TiVo guide, but those features are not enough for me to give up Whole Home DVR. I've got three HR24s and I love being able to watch my recorded programs in any room without having to set up multiple recordings. That said, I still use my lifetimed S3 for OTA.
You could enable TIVO with all the missing features and I'm still not sold that I would like it better then my current HR20's.
My R10 Tivo had a screen of categories to narrow a search after calling up the Search by Title. I used the "Movies" to narrow title search all the time. Now there is no such narrowing, just a search among all titles, which was the selection "All" on my R10. What happened?
I have surrendered any ecitement for Tivo products long ago. I made my move from a Series 1 to a shiny new Sony SVR3000 with Lifetime Sub back in 2002. After that was my first DirecTivo's, and finally my Series 3 HD Tivo.
So with just about a decade of Tivo in my home, I'm now intimately familiar with being 'teased'.
Teased with the promise of a truely digital media hub. I actually paid for the HME update, before Tivo decided to start giving it away for free.
First they brought out music and photo streaming. I was VERY into that! Then they rolled out shared video between Tivo's and between Tivo's and a computer. BUT, and that's a big but, this wasn't true streaming, but more or less transferring the video file over. Also extemely limited video codec support. Still, this was an enticing start!
The problem was, it want a start. Tivo never expanded this. Tivo never tried to become the digital HUB it could have been. DLNA comes along, and practically hands Tivo the way and means to be a hub, but does Tivo bite? Nope. Not a DLNA server, nor a client. Support for WMV, MKV, AVI? Nope. True video streaming from my PC to the Tivo? Nope. Interoperability with standards? Nope.
Now they're showing a concept of a central Tivo, and remote client boxes, but will this be a consumer option? Nope, just cable companies.
Tried of waiting, tired of being teased.
I just don't get the enamor with the centralized hub setup. A unified playlist with unified scheduling is a much better option. If you only have 1 box in your house that records everything and that box fails, you're looking at nothing recording while you wait for your box to be replaced. You've also lost 100% of your recordings. Spread that all out over multiple boxes and your loss is much less.
Amen, brother. With a decentralized solution, when one device - any device - fails, the loss of functionality is limited to that one component.
Have to agree. The only thing missing on the HR2x series boxes at the moment is unified scheduling, and I bet that shows up soon. The HR2x boxes will stream pictures and music and a few other new neat tricks. If you are enamored with the TiVo interface fine, but the HR2x are marching forward with stuff the DTivo wont get anytime soon if at all.
I think what people are failing to see about the difference with the TiVo and HR receivers, is how people are using them. For me, I prefer to just use season passes, wish lists and key words over using the guide to find programs to record. I do not want to spend time reading though an extremely slow program guide full of ad’s to find what I may want to watch. Or to do a search and have to use key word filters just to get rid of all the pay per view stuff. If you use season passes, the 50 season pass limit is a pain to deal with on the HR receivers no matter how creative you get with the keywords. I want a DVR that records what I ask it too and that can tell the difference between first run and a re-run along with not recording channels that are not in my cable package including the Spanish channels, PPV or VOD . I do not care about the 3D video, YouTube or multiple room viewing. What good does it do to have a DVR with multiple room viewing, 3D viewing etc if it fails to simply record what is in your keywords list, or records the same two channels at the same time, or the records the same programs over and over? To me the HR receivers have never been fully finished DIRECTV has spent more time adding features to the receiver and not any time on improving on ability to just record programs reliably. I just started to use the Direct HD TiVo again after two years of being suck with a HR23. So far all the audio drop outs I was getting are gone. (Yes I know it’s repackaged HR20 but the TiVo software has fixed the audio problems for me) The only thing I miss over the HR23 is the commercial skip. I do not miss the slow response times, or the way the guide jump around from the top to the bottom when you delete a show, or having to reset the unit because it lock up again, or being suck with 50 season pass limits.
ok -- i apologize for my obtuseness but i've been reading these threads and am a little confused.
I have a D*TV HR22 on a single HD TV, still running the same old crap guide. I live in New Jersey in the Philadelphia market. Is this box to be updated with the new User Interface? Should I have been part of the Philadelphia rollout? Is there something i need to do to get it to update?
thanks to anyone who can clear up my issues. ( I want to see what i can get before ordering the new HDTivo.)
There's nothing you need to do. When it's your box's turn, it will get the new HD user interface software.
Wow, my Hr2x experience is diametrically opposite of yours. My boxes only record first run, can't recall the last time it messed that up. Searches work fine to find a program, no reason to search through the guide, though it does have a very TiVo like option for searching. If you just to hit left in the guide then hit info it will display everything that will be on for the next two weeks on that channel --just like tivo. All my boxes are connected optically to DD receivers and I have not had ANY audio dropouts in quite some time.
I probably have 100 season passes and keyword search spread over 3 HR units and being networked they are all available for viewing anywhere I have a box, with the addition of "suggestions" I think the HR2s are getting more Tivo like, though they don't record the suggestions-yet.
Each household has its own priorities. We spent 14 months on AT&T and definitely appreciated the Whole Home Feature. We just came back to DirecTV last week and got one HR24 and one DirecTiVo; which means we can't get Whole Home DVR service. Nevertheless, if the DirecTiVo supported 3D, we would have gotten two because to us, ease of use far outweighs the occasional need to see a program on the other machine.
And FWIW, We all hate the cluncky DirecTV remotes. After using the peanut for 8 years and the ATT for another year, the Direct remote is definitely a step backwards. It's awkward for smaller hands and impossible to see in the dark. When are they going to upgrade that?
You can use the new THR22 Tivo remote with your DirecTV equipment.
We don't have enough THR22 remotes for the THR22, let alone extras for the DirecTV DVR and receiver. I have six old TiVo remotes and am using 3 of the 4 extra DirecTV remotes we had. I would love it iif we could get 5 THR22 remotes and get rid of all these awful DirecTV remotes but I don't think that's possible right now.
I was able to place an order with D* for a THR22 remote.
I made it very clear that I wanted the THR22 peanut remote.
The CSR said that that is what she was able to order.
Will post here and let everyone know if that is what I get.