Directv Possibly going back to Tivo HD DVR

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by raven540, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    I've had Tivo for 7 years now. I love the HR20 and plan to replace my remaining Tivo's with more of them.

    Frankly I could care less what software runs my DVRs. The DVR+ platform is the current one from DirecTV so that's what you get. Personally I really, really like the HR20 from interface to extras.

    There is only one thing I miss from Tivo: a working channels I receive list. Once that is fixed on the HR20 there isn't a single thing I would miss.

    And honestly there are only 2 other missing features for most people: Dual buffers and "advanced" wishlists. I used neither and thus don't care a bit about either one. The saved searches on the HR20 are plenty good enough for my needs.

    See, I went into the HR20 with an open mind and an attitude to try new things and for something new and fresh. Took me all of 10 minutes to get used to the HR20 interface and get comfortable. If you go in kicking and screaming you might as well just go to cable instead of torturing yourself.
     
  2. Matt L

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    See, this is exactly why we need CHOICE. Dual buffers are a deal killer for me, I use them constantly. I've had TiVo for over 7 years now in various incarnations, and I've also had Replay and the nasty Dishplayer, and I'm loyal to my TiVo. It does not miss recordings as the others have and the few problems I've had in the past month are not due to TiVo but some idiots not entering data correctly. And, since I read, I do not have 6.3c on my HR10-250, I'm chugging along nicely, dropout free with my trusty ver. 3.xx.

    No product is perfect. People are having troubles with the new software for what ever reason, people complain about the HR20 and the various cable company boxes. I can tell you this, I like having a choice. I choose to use DirecTV for the TiVo unit - which I had long before I had DirecTV - not the other way around. If they force an HR20 on me, I'll take it, but odds are I'll not be a DirecTV customer for long, if it does not do EVERY thing I want it to do, easily and dependably. They are not offering me anything I cannot get elsewhere in a form I like, as in the S3.

    Once again, the key is choice.
     
  3. samo

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    I'm not alone on this forum! What a relief. :) The only thing that bugs me on HR-20 is a 30 sec "slip". Bit to slow for me. I never missed a dual buffer - if I want to watch two things at once, I just push the record button and then use "Previous" button on the remote. Not a brain surgery.
    And in 7+ years of using TiVo I never used suggestions and maybe used autorecord wishlist twice.
    I like VIP-622 better than HR20, but both of these DVRs have much nicer UI than TiVo.
     
  4. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    The only thing that bothers me on the HR20 which is the deal killer is stability. If they can get it to go more than a month without a red button reboot or a missed recording I will change. But right now I can not trust it will record anything properly.
     
  5. Bonanzaair

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    Your kidding - right? You've not seen Cheer, Bonscott87 and others post around here about the wonderfulness of an HR-20? Maybe that's my problem - I read all that stuff. Still believe my Tivo is the better product - just to cheap to make the $650 plunge! The price will drop....but keep posting.

    Bonanza
     
  6. sjberra

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    If they can get the HR10 to go that long I would be happy. Getting ready to call D* for the same problems on the HR10 (5th in just over 2 years)
     
  7. bonscott87

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    I like choice too. But it's something that is very rare in the industry and it costs a lot to support choice.
     
  8. bonscott87

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    So sounds like you don't actually have one?

    The last couple software updates have really stablized the box and the lastest CE (beta's) releases have increased that even more along with a lot of little fixes that just make the experience smoother in general.

    I think the HR20 is very, very close to being declared "stable" and they can move on to the new features and tackle things like dual buffers and such. And yes, of course there will be (and are) still people with problems but hey, just one look at this very forum and you'd think the Tivo has a lot of problems that are bigger then they probably really are. ;)
     
  9. Sir_winealot

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    I wish that *I* were included in the "very close to being declared stable" group for the HR20, as IMO the unit is anything but.
     
  10. bonscott87

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    After the next national release if you're still having problems I'd suggest to just format it, perhaps there is some corrupt code in there somewhere. Then go with a replacement after that. The reports of major problems is going way down the past month or so, so we're getting to the point of corrupt code or hardware issues (at least in my opinion). But hey, I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :D In general anyway it is getting a lot better but still a ways for some people.

    Anyway, off to DBSTalk for more HR20 talk I guess a mod will say soon.
     
  11. Cudahy

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    I'm surprised the lack of wishlists is not more important to people. That's the reason I'll probably stick with my DirectTivoHD even when they start dropping the mpeg2 HD channels.
    The SD picture quality is so much better on my HDtv that the jump to HD is nice but not essential.
     
  12. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    Between work and home I have four. All four of them have not been able to reliably record programs or not freeze... I have done countless RBR and reformats on all four.
     
  13. Sir_winealot

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    This is my fourth unit ...so I'm kinda fed up with calling for a replacement.



    Where are the reports of major problems diminishing over the past month? I don't know about others, but I've just stopped complaining about it as it doesn't seem to do any good. I mean, what's the point?
     
  14. Rych6896

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    I just finish some DST patching on some Solaris 8 boxes that required a reboot. Uptime was 2005 days. I really crossed my fingers on those reboots, also did them early in the day.
     
  15. MichaelK

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    actually the FCC is mandating choice for cable (or trying to).

    Seriously though- did it cost that much more to support when there were 30 different receivers in use, some being tivo's, some being ultimatetv, etc, etc? (not being sarcastis- asking a legit qustion- does that add tons of extra money- the csr drones just read scripts anyway do what's the big deal of asking at first"what box do you have" and then branching the script from there?)
     
  16. jporter12

    jporter12 TiVo changed my life

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    Thing is, they are still supporting TiVo's, and will be until they flip the TiVo switch to the off position (I hope that never happens!) If they were to go back with TiVo, I don't think the support side of things would be any worse for them. Unfortunately, to the average consumer, any DVR is a TiVo. That annoys me to no end! TiVo is THE DVR, but all DVR's are not TiVo!

    On the electronic devices needing rebooted issue, I have a Windows Vista box that is at 19 Days and 12 hours. I know that's not a record by any means, but for windows, it's pretty decent! It's sad that we've gotten to the point where rebooting electronics is considered normal, and where buggy software on devices is acceptable. I work in the automotive industry (Repair Technician) and it is slowly creeping into cars as well. Reprogramming the computers in a car has become much more commonplace lately. Unfortunately, the dealers have the market on this, because the equipment and software is expensive, and is different for each manufacturer!

    I just wish Directv would have stayed with TiVo in the first place!
     
  17. jbradway

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    No your not alone. I have both the HR10 and the HR20. I would be ready to sell the HR10 if the black HR20 was available. Lately the HR10 has been more of the unreliable receiver and the HR20 has done it's job.
     
  18. bjibber

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    Who cares how infantile the technology is: what matters is what can it do RIGHT NOW... by your post you are insinuating that i should expect to wait for 7 years for my HR20 to perform correctly before I can complain? Yeah that will fly in the free market, it's all about giving the underdog who comes in 7 years later a fair chance isn't it.
     
  19. Bonanzaair

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    Now is there any question that the change in guide data was just a simple mistake on DirecTV's part! Meanwhile all the DirecTV hacks here blame Tivo, Inc. for not being able to handle that change. Perfect!


    Bonanza
     
  20. bonscott87

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    Are you participating in the CE releases and reporting the issues with it? DirecTV is watching those threads very closely. In fact a problem was found with 130 pretty much right away and 132 came out a couple days later which fixed the problem. I said what I said because the amount of big issues being reported with the CE's is way down. Yea, still some issues as with any product but the major show stoppers are way down compared to what it was even 2 months ago.

    All I can say is you are on a string of really bad luck if you've had 4 replacements and still have issues. Sorry.
     

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