Directv Possibly going back to Tivo HD DVR

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by raven540, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. Oct 8, 2007 #481 of 625
    samo

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    Why would anybody in their mind buy any business that lost near billion $$ in last 8 years and keeps losing money every day with no prospects to make money any time soon?
     
  2. Oct 8, 2007 #482 of 625
    Sir_winealot

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    I dunno ...why? ......Or was that a rhetorical question?


    Cuz they could get a good deal?
    Cuz they need the write off?
    Cuz they might know more about the financial prospects than you (or the general public) and could take it over while making it profitable for themselves in the long run?

    I really have no idea, and other than what you read ...nor does anyone else.
     
  3. Oct 8, 2007 #483 of 625
    milominderbinder

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    OK, here it is corrected:

    18 months ago DIRECTV was faced with the decision of in some way acquiring the TiVo software or instead licensing out the patent portfolio.

    They chose to license out the portfolio through 2010 with options to extend.

    At this point, why buy the cow when you already leased the milk?

    - Craig
     
  4. Oct 9, 2007 #484 of 625
    hauntedsoul

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    Because I want ALL THE MILK for myself. And I want the flippin cow 2.....................also where is that squirrel?
     
  5. Oct 9, 2007 #485 of 625
    BlackBetty

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    The ice is thawing!

    Global warming when John Malone takes control of D*. Someone who has ZERO interest in the company that makes current non tivo D* boxes.
     
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    SullyND

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    I hope so, but it should be noted that the HR20 is not an NDS device.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2007 #487 of 625
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    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Digital video recorder company TiVo Inc said on Tuesday the roll-out of its services is a "little behind" schedule.

    TiVo is making its technology and services available to Comcast Corp cable customers. The service, built into Scientific Atlanta cable set top boxes, is currently being tested by Comcast employees and was expected to be available to some customers by September.

    "We're waiting for word any time now that the first non-Comcast employee will begin to get the service," TiVo Chief Executive Tom Rogers said at the Natixis Bleichroder conference.
     
  8. Oct 9, 2007 #488 of 625
    bonscott87

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    Uhhh, nothing new there. We knew that a couple months ago, Tivo is working on an update for the DirecTivo's early next year.
     
  9. BlackBetty

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    is it really that hard to scroll up 2 posts to see that this was already posted? :rolleyes:
     
  10. sjberra

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    what year?
     
  11. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    Sorry... this isn't really a "jab" at TiVo.... but...

    a "little behind"... the announcement was almost 3 YEARS ago, that this was going to come...

    Through out 2007, we have heard multiple dates.... all of them have been missed...

    So calling it a "little behind"... maybe behind their latest date they wanted to hit......
     
  12. 20TIL6

    20TIL6 BaDoop BaDoop BaDoop

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    Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines here, but the two statements by Rogers indicate some amount of frustration with Comcast, and maybe some defiance.

    I'm not sure about the context, but together they sound like:

    TiVo has done its part on the Comcast port. Any delays are entirely because of Comcast and we are waiting for them to roll it out beyond their own employees. Rogers sounds a bit irritated.

    And, while we are waiting on Comcast to get off the pot, our ex-girlfriend just called and asked to have lunch sometime.


    It kind of has that tone to me.
     
  13. sluciani

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    Well analyzed! I believe you're right on.

    And regarding the call from the last girlfriend, TiVo's contract with D* requires them to continue support and software maintenance for the HR10 through 2010, so it's not news that they continue to talk. D* is still a paying customer. /steve
     
  14. RS4

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    You may be right, but D* is certainly sending out mixed signals to it's cutomers - on the one hand, they are saying 'nothing in the future with Tivo - our boxes or else', and on the other hand they are sending out emails, phone calls, and messages on my Tivo telling me not only are they coming out with some upgrade (which they have never announced in such fashion before), but they are also exploring other opportunites with Tivo. :confused: I wonder why they are stirring up the pot if they don't have something brewing? :eek:
     
  15. HiDefGator

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    Because Directv has moved all its dvr work in house, if Malone went back to Tivo it would be like taking money away from Directv and giving it to Tivo. That may not be a popular strategy with other Directv shareholders.
     
  16. RS4

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    You could also look at it the other way. It might bring more money in to DirecTV as the Tivo becomes more popular with the cable crowd and then they find out DirecTV doesn't allow it.
     
  17. SullyND

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    If he went back with TiVo exclusively.

    Think ComcasTiVo. If the TiVo OS can be "sold" as an upgrade it could bring more money in to DirecTV than the non-TiVo units.
     
  18. milominderbinder

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    I did a search trying to find the article and got this link:

    Hope for TiVo (CNN: 03/15/05)

    "Comcast said that a TiVo product for its customers would not be available until mid- to late 2006. "

    - Craig
     
  19. TyroneShoes

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    When a company changes hands, the agreements are very complex, as we all probably know. It is very likely that Rupert protected his DVRs which he would still profit from after he sells, as they would remain under his umbrella. IOW, there may be a clause in there that they have to keep the Rupert-blessed DVR for some time, and not allow Tivo or anyone else to make any agreement with DTV that would compete with that. If so, nothing changes on that front, regardless who's eventually in charge.

    But this and everything else here is all speculation. Nobody's talking that knows anything. What's interesting to me is how alive this thread is when there is really nothing here but rumors and guesswork (and the occasional flame war :D)
     
  20. bonscott87

    bonscott87 Done.

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    You got it.

    And a key thing to remember is that the R15 is the *only* receiver based on Rupert's NDS. All others including the HR20 have nothing to do with Rupert or NDS. So Rupert leaving will have virtually no impact on the DVR lines other then maybe a higher price for NDS support on the R15 when that contract is up since they probably won't want to cut as good a deal.

    Hey, anything can happen. Malone/Liberty may love Tivo to death. But he's also a business man and DirecTV would stand to lose a lot of money if they came to a screeching halt all the inertia they have build up around the HR20/21 platform. They have said as much in presentations to Liberty on the matter. Especially if Malone plans to turn DirecTV right around and sell it again (a solid rumor) then he certainly isn't going to make any kind of sweeping changes. "Keep doing what you're doing" will be the mantra until he can sell it again.

    One must also keep in mind that Liberty and Malone will only own about 30-35% of DirecTV. It's not like he can just march in and make wholesale changes without a lot of lobbying with the other owners. These things take time and major direction changes are on the scale of years. Heck, the change away from Tivo in the first place took 3-4 years to complete and it's still not completely done.
     

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