Advertisements RS4, Don't put me in a group and I won't put you into one. BTW, it was my son and what I wrote is true, not insinuations, reality. cramer didn't actually try to see if his parents would find it intuitive, he based that on what he knows about them, it wasn't me cracking at his parents, it's his representation. What I wrote is true. Cooper picked it up right away and has no trouble with either remote. His problem comes when it's time to read, but he recognizes his shows, plays them, goes back to the list and picks another etc. Again, you have some agenda against a group "you guys" I claim no part of that group, just like I don't claim part of your "us" group either. That's your division and you are making it. Apply it where you need to, but it doesn't fit me.