Directv Possibly going back to Tivo HD DVR

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by raven540, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. Sep 3, 2007 #241 of 625
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    i love rumors...gives us reasons to bump threads

    http://www.pvrblog.com/pvr/2007/09/wild-rumor-dire.html

    Wild rumor: DirecTV reps claiming TiVo coming to DirecTV DVRs
     
  2. Sep 3, 2007 #242 of 625
    Mark Lopez

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    Especially when it says "this as a wild rumor that is likely untrue, but with about a 1% chance of happening" Now we get to have the Tivo zealots all worked up again with this 'proof'. ;)
     
  3. Sep 3, 2007 #243 of 625
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    While the "Anti TiVo" regime (all one of them :D ) continues attempting to get the natives all restless and worked up again with meaningless disparaging comments.
    :rolleyes:


    You go girl.


    :D
     
  4. Sep 3, 2007 #244 of 625
    Mark Lopez

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    On the contrary, I'm as much pro-Tivo as any 'sane' person. What I am is 'Anti let's bash anything that isn't a Tivo even if I've never used it'. :)

    And apparently it did get you worked up. ;)
     
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    i already have my preorder in
     
  6. Sep 4, 2007 #246 of 625
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    Mark, it seems quite obvious that you don't want a follow-on product from Tivo, but many of the rest of us do. I think the odds are pushing in our favor now, because of the recent announcements from DirecTV and Tivo.

    I've gotten emails, messages on my Tivos, and even phone calls from DirecTV telling me that my series 2 machines are being updated, and as a part of that, there is an 'oh by the way' that they are 'exploring' other opportunities. That is a very strong signal to me that there is a good chance something will be announced soon. I don't ever recall getting so much notice for some upgrade of a dead product before. :p

    On top of that, I was reading in the other forum on DTivos where a gentleman said that he was having an issue with a bill from DirecTV. He said that someone from the Executive office called him. In their conversation, she (the exec) mentioned that DirecTV would be announcing another Tivo product within the next few months. So, that is another source within DirecTV unless it was meant to be a hoax.

    Time will tell, but I'm hoping we hear something by the first quarter of next year. :D
     
  7. Sep 4, 2007 #247 of 625
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    I emailed Dtv last week about the possibility. I wouldn't expect front line csr to know if anything is coming in the next month, but you never know. I decided to switch to tivoHD.

    Thanks for writing about your preferred DIRECTV Equipment. First of all, I would like to acknowledge you for being with us since 2003 and we recognize you as a valued and loyal customer. We want you to know we appreciate it. I understand you have some questions if we would offer HD TiVo Service. I'm more than happy to assist you with this.

    After extensive research, it shows that we currently do not have plans of offering HD TiVo Services. Recently, TiVo announced changes to their service that will affect the TiVo stand alone boxes. We have no additional information on the changes to the TiVo features or what effect, if any, they will have on the DIRECTV DVR with TiVo service.

    For your reference, the upcoming software download for DIRECTV with TiVo receivers, currently planned for early 2008, will provide enhancements for the Series 2 TiVo platform. Customers with a DIRECTV with TiVo Series 2 receiver will be getting enhancements, including a Recently Deleted Folder and Overlap Protection, as well as access to DIRECTVÂ’s Remote Booking feature.

    Our goal is to continue to expand our programming and technology offerings, in order to bring you the best television entertainment experience available.

    Should you have further questions, please call us at 1-800-531-5000. I have noted your account so that our technical support specialists can assist you immediately.

    I hope you find this information helpful. Thanks again for writing and stay tuned to directv.com for the latest news and information about our services.

    Sincerely,
     
  8. Randyman...

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    I was listening to Leo Laporte's "The Tech Guy" podcast from Saturday Sept 8th (from twit.tv), and he also indicated that DTV is back in bed with TiVo!

    So, what's the deal? I guess this is still speculation at best? I'll be in the market for a DTV HD TiVo soon (4-6 Months), so this might be fantastic news...

    Thanks for any updates/confirmations

    :cool:
     
  9. bigpuma

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    If you read through this thread you will see that they have an agreement to upgrade the software for the current DTivos. However there is no announcement for a new HD Tivo that can handle Mpeg-4. It is still unlikely that we will ever see one so if you want to get the new channels in HD via direcTV you will have to go with the non TiVo DVR from DirecTV.
     
  10. Randyman...

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    "I can hold my breath for a very long time" (Creepshow)

    ;)

    I searched for this, and I ran across this thread, but I didn't have time to read the whole thing (just the first 2 pages from Feb, and the last page with the "Bump" to see what was "current" as of September).

    That is certainly NOT what I was expecting (Leo Laporte made it sound like DTV ad TiVo kissed and made up recently - like just this month). I assumed that meant MPEG-4 TiVo's were on the way :(

    Oh well. Still holding my breath (I'm optimistic this will pan out in our favor).

    :cool:
     
  11. Redux

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    It's going to be a lot more complicated than that. DirecTV has new owners. Old management is fighting for survival. Some staked careers on agreeing that getting rid of Tivo was a _great_ idea, and they cannot reverse. "The Murdoch _made_ me do it" will not fly as an excuse.

    Obviously one way is if Tivo can re-define a whole new relationship. Then nodody at DirecTV will have to admit to the collosal blunder, they can declare victory, say this is a whole _new_ deal with Tivo and move on to a newer and better HiDef DTivo.
     
  12. Idearat

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    With my zippered DirecTiVos, including an unsubbed "slave" unit I wouldn't be in any hurry to get this new upgrade when it's available next year. So the official announcement didn't get me excited in itself.

    An MPEG4 capable HD DirecTivo would have my order in the day it was announced though.
     
  13. Redux

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    It's really amazing, isn't it. When I look at the value of what I've got right now, buying a HiDef Mpeg4 DTivo would make absolutely no sense. But lots of idiots like us would buy them in an instant. Hard to figure out if anybody at DirecTV understands this.

    The hacking audience, OTOH, is a very limited market. For them, sure the upgrade is nothing they haven't had for years. But hopefully it's an indicator of a return to sanity.
     
  14. ebockelman

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    This is one of the issues with the Zipper. It makes theft of Tivo service way too easy.
     
  15. milominderbinder

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    I think this is the source of these rumors:DIRECTV and TiVo Partnership

    ...Launching in early 2008, the new software download will provide these customers with DVR enhancements offered with the TiVo service, including a Recently Deleted Folder and Overlap Protection™, as well as DIRECTV's Remote Booking feature. In addition, DIRECTV and TiVo will continue to explore ways to bring future enhancements to DIRECTV customers with TiVo receivers.

    What motivation does DIRECTV have to give a contract to TiVo?

    DIRECTV already has access to TiVo's technology for 3 more years. Why buy the cow if you already own the milk.

    Instead of a 4 month development time for TiVo tweaks, DIRECTV is now able to deliver upgrades almost weekly.

    And no matter what you are being told, the HR10 hardware can't be converted to the new MPEG4. It is a hardware issue just like a Black and White TV cannot be "reprogrammed" to be color.

    - Craig
     
  16. dscott72

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    When are the "keys" to DirecTv officially turned over to the new owners?
     
  17. wolflord11

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    The HR10's cannot be converted to MPeg 4. it requires a Hardware Mod, and NO Software will fix that issue. So when Directv do switch over to all MPeg4 then its good bye HR10.

    Oh well, get over it people. Technology changes.

    Directv and Tivo getting back together, yea maybe a 0.01 percent chance. Personally I cannot see the point of it. It aint worth it just to get the Tivo Software back on a Directv box.

    As for MRV and TivotoGo, Directv is still working on their own Version of that, and I am sure that will be up and running way before Directv and tivo re-unite.

    Tivo has moved on to the Cable Companies now, and turned their backs upon us loyal Directv and Tivo users. Personally I would rather deal with One Company, and not have to go thru all the Directv/Tivo happenings again.
     
  18. gdomeier

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    One reason dtv may get back with tivo would be lost subscribers. I am leaving dtv because I want hd and tivo. If that happens enough, then they may re-establish their parternship.
     
  19. Billy66

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    gdomeier, there is no indication that your group represents a significant number to DirecTv. I don't know, but I would modestly wager that DTV will gain customers through their transition to MPEG4. They recognize that to the high majority of their customers, programming is what is important and the DVR is a commodity.

    The subset of TiVo loyalists will simply be an acceptable loss for larger gains.
     
  20. 20TIL6

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    <<Tivo has moved on to the Cable Companies now, and turned their backs upon us loyal Directv and Tivo users.>>

    Wow, as a former long-time DTV customer, I have a completely opposite perspective on that. I think it was DTV that turned its back on us loyal DTV and TiVo users. TiVo would have gained nothing from dissolving that relationship, in fact, they have lost a lot. DTV gained complete control of future revenues and margins by bringing DVR technology in-house. And that was their motivation in no longer marketing DTV/TiVo units, despite what their customers really wanted.

    Simply, out of the 4.5 million or so TiVo users that exist today, 2.7 million are DTV/TiVo users. TiVo turning its back? How would that even make sense? TiVo being shut out....that makes more sense.
     

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