Directv Possibly going back to Tivo HD DVR

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  1. Feb 16, 2007 #1 of 625
    raven540

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    I heard a very unsubstantiated rumor from someone who knows someone who works for TIVO. That is, that Directv may revisit its decision and go back to allowing a new TIVO based HD DVR that does MPEG 4. I want to believe this but my wanting it to be true does not make it so. Has anyone heard anything about this?
     
  2. Feb 16, 2007 #2 of 625
    bonscott87

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    Uhhhh, no.
     
  3. Feb 16, 2007 #3 of 625
    swizzlest

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    IMO, both Tivo and D* would be well served to reunite, but I'm not holding my breath.
     
  4. Feb 16, 2007 #4 of 625
    Markman07

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    My uncles cousins brother half removed sister-in-law's pet squirrel said the same thing. I think he's nuts.
     
  5. Feb 16, 2007 #5 of 625
    old7

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    Thats funny, my second-cousin's best-friend's next-door neighbor's ex-wife has a pet squirrel that thinks just the opposite. And I know he's nuts. ;)
     
  6. Feb 16, 2007 #6 of 625
    broken back

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    I don't think *D* would go with a Tivo HD PVR, This would eat into all they have vested into with the HR20. People would dump the HR20's they had and *D* would take a great lose. They are getting close in the HR20 in having in stable and adding features.
     
  7. Feb 16, 2007 #7 of 625
    Cruzan

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    But they could allow Tivo to offer a DirecTV solution with a hardware partner. It's how they got started, and it would keep me with Directv.

    Ron
     
  8. Feb 16, 2007 #8 of 625
    bonscott87

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    Why? If the HR20 is stable and does what it's supposed to do why is Tivo the almighty answer?

    Anyway, again, they aren't worried about you or a few thousand leaving. Not vs. the 16+ million customers they have, thousands added per day.
     
  9. Feb 16, 2007 #9 of 625
    crashburn

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    I have been with DTV for a long long time. I have Tivo DTV and HD Tivo DTV. I am not so sure everyone that likes tivo leaving would be a good idea for DTV. I personally like Tivo A LOT. I probably will say kiss off DTV if they do not go back to tivo. I am sick of this changing every time the wind blows a different way. $$$$$$$$ :cool:
     
  10. Feb 16, 2007 #10 of 625
    rminsk

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    That is the squirrel I've been hunting for... WHERE IS HE????
     
  11. Feb 16, 2007 #11 of 625
    TonyD79

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    I'd say "Why not?"

    If they let Tivo manage the machines and collect fees directly (or indirectly) they would simply have a choice for their customers.

    As long as Tivo works with the data stream, why not?
     
  12. Feb 16, 2007 #12 of 625
    Sir_winealot

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    IF the HR20 ever does what it's supposed to do, then TiVo wouldn't be the answer IMO. But from what I've seen from the HR20 the first 6 months, that's a pretty darn big 'if.'

    And although the R15 is made by NDS, it's still a D* product and the 'little brother' of the HR20 in a sense....and they've never worked the bugs outta that one.

    So I'm not having much faith in the ability of D* to get the thing stable... but with the advent of MPEG2 HD being shut down soon, I'd love to be wrong. :cool:
     
  13. Feb 16, 2007 #13 of 625
    SullyND

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    There's always the possibility of DirecTV using the TiVo OS the way Comcast is and porting it to their hardware - or even charging over and above the base DVR fee.
     
  14. Feb 16, 2007 #14 of 625
    mattn2

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    As soon as D* shuts down the MPEG2 stream for HD w/o a TiVo offering, I am gone as well. Loyal customer of D* since 1995. Loyal customer of TiVo since near beginning (still an S1 owner ... master of its own D* receiver). Where I am moving this summer, there is more cable HD offerings for about the same price, and I already have an S3.

    # Matt
     
  15. Feb 16, 2007 #15 of 625
    crashburn

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    Is DTV going to kill MPEG2? Will my Tivo even work or for that matter any of the HD boxes I have? :confused:
     
  16. Feb 16, 2007 #16 of 625
    bonscott87

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    Yes, been the plan for about 3 years now. But it's probably still about 2 years away from it happening. Depends how quickly they get MPEG4 boxes out there.

    Your HR10 will still work just fine for SD recording and OTA HD.
     
  17. Feb 16, 2007 #17 of 625
    TyroneShoes

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    That it might be the almighty answer is not what is being said or even implied, but there are a great number of Tivo owners who are, shall we say, greatly underwhelmed by the HR20 and by all of the other non-Tivo DTV DVRs.

    Stability is only a small part of the answer. I did not have a HR20 long enough to validate whether it was stable or not, or to have any clue as to whether it has improved of late. But, I knew pretty early on that it was exceptionally user-hostile compared even to DISH PVRs. Up against Tivo it was no contest, and I am hardly the only one who is convinced of that.

    If you can't tell the difference between Absolut and Grey Goose, you might as well be guzzling the $3.99 Vodka available at the drugstore. It also "does what it's supposed to do".
     
  18. Feb 16, 2007 #18 of 625
    rminsk

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    I just need a DVR that can reliably record and playback TV. I do not need any file sharing, music playing, ... My minimum standard is a product that will do basic DVR functions (season passes, wishlists, manual records), record programs reliably without any maintence (manual reset, manually fixing upcoming recordings, ...), and be up for at least 30 days without rebooting. I do not think this standard is unreasonable for any consumer product. It is pretty amazing how few DVR meet this minimum standard. I guess I have been spoiled by my DirecTiVos. It seems that people now accept machines that have to be reset or constantly watched to make work. It is the attitude that "computers need rebooting once in a while".

    The HR20 has come a long way but it is still not getting to my minimum standard. When/if the HR20 makes it to that point then I will glady use it but until then I will welcome any competitor product that meets my standard.
     
  19. Feb 16, 2007 #19 of 625
    TyroneShoes

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    I agree heartily that this should be the minimum standard. And if we are talking HD, I can only think of one PVR that meets it. Everything else seems to be running a very distant second.
     
  20. Feb 16, 2007 #20 of 625
    gquiring

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    Audio dropouts, black screens, the season pass problem and reboots. Why do most folks think Tivo is so great?
     

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