DirecTV+HD+TiVo Is there any hope at all????

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by michman, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member

    Dec 15, 2003
    Denver ish


    "Many do and many more will" != "Much of the country". Your situation is far from normal. The majority won't have a choice anytime in the near future.
  2. louiss3000

    louiss3000 New Member

    Aug 4, 2003
    I did.
  3. nrc

    nrc Cracker Soul

    Nov 17, 1999
    Living in a...
    "Much" doesn't imply a majority and wasn't intended to.
  4. BlackBetty

    BlackBetty I

    Nov 5, 2004
    DirecTV will offer TiVo service again eventually. Soon, 50% of the cable market will be offering TiVo boxes (Comcast and Cox). And possibly DirecTV's biggest competitor Echostar/Dish once they lose the appeals verdict.

    Think DirecTV is going to want to not be able to offer its customers something that everyone else has to offer?
  5. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

    Dec 24, 2007


    Why? Unless a significant number of people leave because of no Tivo then there is no reason to. And that just isn't happening and hasn't for over 3 years now.
  6. Rych6896

    Rych6896 New Member

    Nov 26, 2002
    If Time Warner ever gets the NFL ST I'm gone.
  7. shibby191

    shibby191 New Member

    Dec 24, 2007
    Guess you'll be around for a while then. ;)
  8. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

    Mar 12, 2002
    Tivo has experience producing boxes that work with DTVs access cards and satellite stream.

    Tivo has experience producing boxes that are mpeg4 capable. I understand the TivoHD uses the chipset as the HR21.

    I agree a few weeks is probably extremely optimistic but tivo wouldn't be starting from scratch. They'd have to produce a box that would work with a single wire multiswitch. I suspect DTV would license the technology, assuming they approved such a box.

    That said there is absolutely no credible evidence that suggests tivo will have a new box for DTV in the foreseeable future.

  9. blips

    blips Well-Known Member

    Oct 20, 1999
    Bartlett, IL
    What is the difference between DirecTv and cable now? As far as I'm concerned DirecTv IS another cable company now. Since they now require a 2 year commitment, the equipment is all DirecTv brand with no other manufacturers and on top of that you only can "lease" the equipment for the same price that you used to buy the equipment for and owned it. To me DirecTv used to be the alternative to cable, now they are just another cable company.
  10. TonyTheTiger

    TonyTheTiger Pro Troll Magnet

    Dec 22, 2006
    Outside of the major cities, there is still a huge difference between what is offered by D* and the cable companies. For example, my local cableco wouldn't know HD if it hit them on the nose, let alone the fact that all channels except the specific "digital" channels are analog. Heck, even MTV is still transmitted in MONO sound! This means that the locals are almost unwatchable on a big screen.

    Satellite is the ONLY choice I have here and D* has the edge over E* because of content.

    Sadly, that means an eventual end to TiVo for me (my HR10 died last month, but I still have a Philips DSR708 in the office for my Slingbox), but it's that or nothing.

    BTW, I'm too far away to receive anything OTA.
  11. TyroneShoes

    TyroneShoes HD evangelist

    Sep 6, 2004
    Not to question your spotless record of performance here, but that's right, SH. It's called R&D. Preparation. Hedging a bet by making a small investment in the unpredictable, and it's done by smart technology companies all of the time, every day. So just keep on laughing.

    F***nuts who ROTFLMAO over that sort of thing are also the ones who are for whatever reason ignorant of the fact that one-off prototypes (read: new platforms minimally-modified from existing HD Tivo platforms) already exist in the Tivo labs, and probably in the living rooms of DBS vendor CTOs, and then wonder why they got run over and left in the dust when the new product they thought was impossible to produce in a short time magically shows up on the shelves at BestBuy two months after the new agreement gets signed. Those are the same sort of once-laughing ilk who in the 70's bought stock in typewriter companies instead of IBM and Apple, and ended up in a Oakland basement apartment cooking over a hot plate rather than in a Palo Alto mansion.

    I didn't postulate Tivo having that hardware all but ready just as a pipe dream, but as a scenario that is likely already true, if not at least definitely possible. Morphing existing modular Tivo platforms into that new platform isn't like trying to fashion the new Toyota Camry from scratch from a clay model. They don't have to reinvent the wheel, all of the parts are already readily available, and 98% of the hard work and code needed for such a platform was done long ago. IOW, it's not ramping up a "new" platform, it's ramping up a slightly-modified "old" platform that most of the legwork has already been done on.

    Scoff at your own peril. Reality, which is apparently completely quite different than your pedestrian perception of reality, is scoffing right back at you.
  12. HiDefGator

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    are you suggesting that a small company that has yet to turn a profit is spending time and money prepping a DVR for Directv when Directv doesn't even currently talk to them? I know I must be reading your post wrong.
  13. Cudahy

    Cudahy New Member

    Mar 21, 2001
    No one knows if "ongoing negotiations" with Tivo includes discussion about an HDTivo upgrade or not. No one knows what Malone's view on the subject is. It's been 6 months since he was supposed to take over Directv. We're still just waiting.
  14. HiDefGator

    HiDefGator New Member

    Oct 12, 2004
    Is "take over Directv" the right phrase? Didn't he only buy 40% or something like that?
  15. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    It was a stock swap... for around 33% of DirecTV Group.
  16. slaponte

    slaponte The Iron Monkey

    Apr 6, 2005
    Miami, FL
    Sorry but I have a question (that probably has been answered in many threads by now, but how do you search for this?)... What keeps Tivo today from producing a box that plugs between the DirecTv receiver and my TV??

    When I first got Tivo I had Adelphia cable.The Tivo box plugged between the Adelphia cable box and my TV. I used the infrared thingys to change channels on the box. So, why can't this be done again? Yeah, is not a SatBox+DVR unit, but it would do nicely for many users. I still have my old Tivos on the non-HD locations, and they work just like that (well, I got the USB thingy to change channels, but the rest is the same).

    I understand DirecTv and Tivo divorced, so I expect no more DirecTv+Tivo units, but why can't Tivo produce a box I can put AFTER the satellite box and BEFORE my TV, on the HDMI line??
  17. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    DirecTV has to give approval for the Data Encryption aspects of their signal to TiVo.

    Thus DirecTV has to approve any system that access their datastream.


    As for a SA TiVo, AFTER the DirecTV box.
    They have that with their current systems.... For Standard Definition.

    For High Definition, the cost would be very high, to encode live stream, HD content via component connections, and then with HDMI... it may eventually not be possible with content protection flags, ect...
  18. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

    Nov 12, 2004
    Which it seems that Directv SHOULD be required by the FCC to allow this.... similar to the FCC mandating the cable companies having to use cablecard.

  19. ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

    Jul 24, 2001
    Call your congress person.
  20. CrashHD

    CrashHD I am the me.

    Nov 10, 2006
    MO, USA
    so, in other words, there's no hope, right?

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