DIRECTV and Tivo Launch new HD DVR

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by QSCSTech, Sep 3, 2008.

  1. hauntedsoul

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    I cant wait to flush this pos hr20 down the crapper!!!!
     
  2. tough joe

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    Just imagine ! Having Directv with tivo dvr. Done. Now lets further imagine the type of dvr that will be built for this new agreement. How about a 4 tunner tivo, 2 - no 3 terabytes large (to allow for large hd content), room to room transfer on all directv tivo boxes with gigabit ethernet for FAST transfers, then allow tivo to go for portable devices... and fianlly, offer LIFETIME SERVICE at $300 or less! WOW what a world that would be!!!

    Kumbya my lord, kumbyaaaaaaaaa. Kumbya my lord, kumbyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....
    And the world was good once again...
     
  3. sk33t3r

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    WOOHOO man I cant wait to trash this HR20, the software SUCKS and its SLOW!!! I still have my hr10-250 and dsr6000/7000 up and runing
     
  4. stevel

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    The HR20 is slow compared to an HR10? Is this "opposite day"?
     
  5. sk33t3r

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    UH no, the HR20 is a daw IMO compared to the HR10. The 30 sec skip i slow, menu response is slow, deleting shows is slow, did I say its SLOW and SUX????
     
  6. stevel

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    You said it, but that hasn't been my impression nor that of most others. In fact, the speed of the HR2x is often called out as an advantage compared to the HR10. I have both, so I see this daily. I almost never see "Please Wait" on the HR2x, whereas it is a frequent occurrence on the TiVo.

    I know opinions differ on the "goodness" of the HR2x DVRs and you are entitled to yours.
     
  7. Mark W

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    Yeah, I love my HR-10, but speedy it isn't. It's an absolute dog compared to an HR-20. And that's not including changing Season Pass priorities...when you see that Please Wait, This will take a Minute... you know it's time to go make a sandwich.
     
  8. kaszeta

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    That's the biggest improvement about my HR21. Modifying *anything* on the SP list on the HR10 was teeth-hurtingly slow.

    (I had a period when I truly hated my HR20, but I think that was a bad hardware issue, my HR21 has been reliable aside from the "sometimes all MPEG4 channels are black after loss of signal due to rain fade" problem, which is only a problem if I'm away from home for a while)
     
  9. snoop

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    One of the guys over at dbstalk claims to have talked to some super secret folks at directv who told him that the current HR platforms will NOT run the tivo s/w.

    My experience with the HR has been lousy. I went from a bunch of series ones to a couple of directivos and finally bit the bullet and went over to the HR20's.

    I *have* found the HR to be slower than the tivo at many things. The season pass reprioritization is much faster since it doesnt redo the todo list on the spot. The dang menus often take forever to come up and sometimes the remote button presses take 2-3 seconds to get a response. A reboot seems to solve it.

    I've found that with a network connected, a full 50 'series links', and heavy dual tuner recording usage the 'real time guide data/recording' model falls down, recordings dont happen with funny errors in the history log that nobody can or will explain, blank recordings and box hangs become pretty typical.

    I was 90% of the way to sending it all back, buying a series 3 and trying to navigate the cable morass while paying a termination fee to directv. Seems I may soon have other options.
     
  10. DrAV123

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    I was a long time DirecTV customer (10 + years) and pulled the plug because of the whole TiVo HD fiasco. :mad: It appeared that TIVO was never allowed to update the HD DVRs as there were never any new features or software updates to my Hughes unit. The build on the Hughes was really bad in terms of vibration from the fan. I had to add foam on the inside and sit the whole thing on a 2 inch pad of foam to reduce the noise to an acceptable level. Other than that I had no problems with the hardware.

    I told the DirecTV customer retention that I was terminating service because they did not offer a TiVo unit that worked on their new HD MPEG-4 standard and I was tired of paying $$ for limited MPEG-2 service. I just installed my new TiVo HD Cable unit and Cox cable came out and installed their cable cards last night. If the new TiVo/DirecTV unit is good I may switch back when it comes out.

    Aside: I actually know something about the set top industry and know some of the engineers in a local company that was helping build DirecTVs software for their own MPEG-4 HD PVR. I laughed when I first heard DirecTV announce how quickly they would launch their own HD PVR :D This technology is incredibly difficult to do right and TiVo has the secret sauce. Turns out I was right as they delayed their launch by almost a year.

    Disclaimer: I own a small number of TiVo shares.
     
  11. DrAV123

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    Just a clarification. My Satellite DirecTV/TiVo unit was an HR10-250.
     
  12. Joey303

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    I can't believe I'm going to be able to stick with DirecTV and still have TiVo HD. This is the best news in a long, long time, as I was THISCLOSE to going with Comcast.
     
  13. DrAV123

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    Finally, building a quality user interface that is consistent is hell. Building a User Interface that is consistent, easy to use, useful, and makes sense on an incredibly complex product is damm near impossible. TiVo mastered that. That is why I have been a TiVo evangalist ever since I laid my hand on a Series 1 Sony unit back in 2000. It was upgraded once with a larger hard drive after the original died and still working. Having outlived it's usefullness it is sitting quietly in a corner gathering dust now. I guess I'm starting my own TiVo boneyard.
     
  14. DrAV123

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    Yeah, seems the processor was to slow for the unit. Sometimes the wait was forever and sometimes it was quick. Couldn't figure out what the difference was from one time to the other. I had one irksome software glitch that they never seemed to fix... I assumed because TiVo was no longer supporting given that DirecTV was striking out on their own. Sometimes when you hit the record button when it was already buffering a live TV channel it would drop the video in the buffer. Upon playback it was not there. Also when you tried to rewind the clip to the beginning you would get a weird freeze condition.
     
  15. JimSpence

    JimSpence Just hangin'

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    Link?
     
  16. rock_doctor

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    Darn, was going FIOS for TV next summer and happily dump D*. I guess I'll stay, providing they actually do it. Wonder if my series 2 units will last that long with the 6.4a induced Monday night crashes. I know my series 1 will be fine. Hopefully they won't be too expensive, I need two.
     
  17. kbohip

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    Sweet!!!!! I haven't visited this forum in almost a year, being as how I switched to the crappy Directv HD-Dvr. I was just telling my wife last night how much better I still like my old HR10-250. The HR10 feels like the newer machine to me, it's MUCH faster than the HR20, and to me anyway, the menus are far faster and easier to navigate through. To Directv's credit though, the HR20 has at least been about 99% reliable in making sure it's recorded all the shows. This is a big change from when I first got it.

    Man, I can't tell you guys how happy this news makes me!!!:cool::D:D:D
     
  18. clm47

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    This is great news because I've been wanting to get an HD TV. I've been with Directv since 1999. I currently have a zipper hacked Tivo and love it. Last year we switched to FIOS and my family hated their Motorola POS DVR. There billing department messed with me enough to switch back to Directv and I was once again popular for bring back the Tivo.
    I have a 32" Sony Wega that does HD but it sucked because it's the old aspect ratio. I refuse to go back to cable for anything other than internet service so good move Directv, you have me forever now!
     
  19. wpshell

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    I've been a dedicated DirecTivo user since 2000. Currently have 4 zippered Series 2's. They are beginning to fail and I am ready to get a nice HDTV. Can't face the thought of an HR, so I was about to pull the plug and go cable & Tivo HD.
    Now I'm going to wait and see. But to try to improve the odds of something good happening, I sent D* an email (via their website "Feedback"). I told them my history and made clear to them that I am not willing to accept a "watered down" Tivo. I want the full standalone Tivo feature set.
    I told them that D* is the BEST content provider in the business and that Tivo is the BEST DVR maker in the business. D* owes it to their customers to provide the best of both worlds.
    If everyone would impress on D*, early in the game, that we expect a full featured Tivo then maybe we'll get something close to it.
     

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