DirecTiVos Using Cable/OTA?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by Kingboo2314, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. Kingboo2314

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    I am thinking about getting a directivo as I have heard they are better than the mainstream ones but I don’t have DirecTV but the TiVo I am planning on buying has a cable and antenna in. Could it use OTA or cable? This is a Huges unit btw. Also, would it need the access card?
     

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  2. mdavej

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    Just so I understand, you want a decade old satellite box to record OTA without a Tivo subscription? With all the OTA recording options available today, that would be the absolute last thing I would ever consider.
     
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  3. Kingboo2314

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    I am asking if I can. Not if it’s the best method out there.
     
  4. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    "Pass-through only" should be a hint.

    I dunno where or why you heard that DirecTiVos are better; that's silly. Maybe it made some kind of sense in the days when that model was new, and the corresponding "cable" TiVo was only analog (the DirecTiVos have always recorded the digital signal directly -- but that model is only standard definition). But that was long, long ago (in tech years), and both kinds of "Series 2" units are obsolete now.

    There is, AFAIK, exactly one DirecTiVo model that did support digital OTA, the HR10-250. It might even still work. But I don't think there's any reason at all to prefer it over a more modern TiVo. (And anyway -- that model in the picture is not it.)
     
  5. wmcbrine

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    And just to elaborate on that hint... "pass-through only" means that, if you turn the TiVo OFF (i.e., put it in Standby), it will then let a signal pass through from the input to the output, for a TV (or VCR, or whatever) to tune. In other words, it does absolutely nothing with the signal, at all. If you turn the TiVo ON, it instead feeds its own output over that bottom RF connector, on channel 3 or 4. The only reason this exists at all is to serve the most primitive kind of video setup (that used to be common*), where the only input on the TV is an RF connector. It would be generous to call it 1980's tech.

    * Don't tell me it still is; I couldn't bear it.
     
  6. Kingboo2314

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    I don’t need HD as I am only connecting it to a TV that only outputs SD. Is the one you said the only one that can use a OTA signal or is that the only HD one and there are more that only do SD?
     
  7. Mr Tony

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    Why not buy a simple digital converter box then if you only need SD?

    The picture you posted in your first post does analog only and not digital
     
  8. stevel

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    You simply cannot use that Hughes DVR for anything. DirecTV won't activate it, and it cannot record from the antenna input.
     
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  9. wmcbrine

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    If you mean the first post of this thread, actually that model only does digital -- from satellite, SD only, and probably wouldn't even work with today's DirecTV. No analog at all, no digital OTA, no digital cable. (No digital Dish, even, just to make the point complete.)
     
  10. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    If you expect to tune broadcast signals, it does need to handle HD -- maybe not to output it, but to decode it.

    No DirecTiVos do what you want, at all. Put that out of your mind, seriously.

    And yes, the HR10-250 is the only DirecTiVo that does any kind of OTA. But there are lots of other TiVos that support OTA.
     
  11. ajwees41

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    Digital not HD
     
  12. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    Yes, HD. The bulk of OTA content (by consumed bandwidth and by interest level, at least) is HD. If you built an ATSC tuner that could only tune SD subchannels, it would be worthless. (As I say, it doesn't necessarily have to display it in HD -- see CECBs -- but it has to decode it.)
     
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  13. dougtv

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    DirecTivos are for DirecTV...I have an old DirecTV Tivo that was the original Hughes SD one and it STILL plays my recorded shows from 2003, Howard Stern when he was still on E! network, "life as we know it" a short lived ABC primetime series in 2003 (lol!) ..when Cinemax was still...well you know... all of this recorded material still on my DirecTivo with the same very hard drive it came with as it's been stored in my attic. Tested it a couple months ago. I love that thing, because when everyone had TiVo back then, my DirecTV TiVo could record TWO shows at once. 2002-2003 was awesome. Come to think of it DISH network SD DVR was not bad back then either, the 522 I think it was?

    Alright, now it's 2020. There are other SD TiVO options you could go for that can take an analog input signal and do manual recording at the very least. DirecTV Tivos SD/HD only record from DirectTV. I am not aware of any capability to record an analog coax input, manual recording or not...it needs the DirecTV card in the middle to be activated before "Live TV" functionality will work, not to mention any dialup/check in with TiVo activity.
     
  14. MannyE

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    You can take it apart and use it for making greeblies for your Star Wars setup. That's all it's good for.
     
  15. Wil

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    I have an HR10-250 that I fire up every once in awhile because a charitable group I'm associated with has quite a few installed (hacked for OTA-only recording) that I am supposed to support. Bulit like a tank (once the power supply caps are upgraded) and the picture is great, though the tuner is only mediocre.

    But several months ago I absolutely couldn't get the HR10-250 to update the guide data for a couple of recent channel repacks (it had always done so previously). I didn't exactly have the status to request DirecTV to do an update;). So I sent an end-of-life notice out. It's dead, Jim.
     

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