Digital Converter Box Coupon Site

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When more information is available.... which box would you choose?

  1. DigitalSTREAM D2A1D10/D2A1D20

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Zenith DTT900

    45 vote(s)
    42.1%
  3. Magnavox TB100MW9

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Philco TB150HH9

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. MicroGEM MG2000

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Sansonic FT300RT

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. MaxMedia MMDTVB03

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Apex DT1001

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. ECHOSTAR TR-40

    35 vote(s)
    32.7%
  10. AMTC AT-2016

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
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  1. Jan 3, 2008 #61 of 468
    fallingwater

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    If a reader believes the aptly named bicker's pitch, then obviously wait!

    For around 70 bucks minus the coupon how much better will converters get?

    https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx

    [+]Converter box option

    [+]1. How much do I have to pay for a TV converter box?

    When TV converter boxes are available, retail stores will set the price. TV converter boxes are expected to cost between $50 and $70. The Federal Government permits each U.S. household up to two $40 coupons to help pay for the cost of the converter box. After applying the coupon, participating retailers will charge consumers the remaining balance of between $10 and $30.
     
  2. Jan 4, 2008 #62 of 468
    bicker

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    Reliability will improve. Energy consumption will decrease.
     
  3. Jan 4, 2008 #63 of 468
    vman41

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    cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sick of people asking me (as their TV/tech go-to-guy) "Do I need to worry about the change? I think I do."

    Why doesn't that federal site have a GIANT thing on the first past that screams "UNLESS YOU USE RABBIT EARS YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, GO AWAY!"
     
  5. Jan 4, 2008 #65 of 468
    bicker

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    It is interesting ... I see now that our local news is presenting the daily countdown on the morning news.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2008 #66 of 468
    fallingwater

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    Converters are basically one shot products, not long term solutions to the standards change The elegible list now includes 15. Do you know that there will actually be additional eligible boxes that are better or are you just surmising and pulling the old chain?

    IMHO, its 'better' to have 2 coupons in hand 3 months from now than none (although, depending on the number of requests received, it wouldn't be surprising if the number sent to homes acknowledging cable as an option is cut to 1.)

    The coupon program is basically another gov't 'earmark'. Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper to just offer a one time $80 tax credit for low income filers?

    Worst case scenario, with or without coupons, is that a viewer may have to shell out around 70 bucks for a converter!
     
  7. Jan 4, 2008 #67 of 468
    grampy

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    I know of at least one:eek:
     
  8. Jan 4, 2008 #68 of 468
    Luke M

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    Everyone needs a hobby.
     
  9. Jan 5, 2008 #69 of 468
    stahta01

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    Working on links to manufacturers.
    http://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm

    Tim S

    Artec T3A http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Artec_T3A.html
    AccessHD DTA1010D
    AccessHD DTA1010U
    AMTC AT-2016
    Apex Digital DT1001 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Apex_Digital_DT1001.html
    "Broken Link" http://support.apexdigitalinc.com/dt1001.asp
    CASTi CAX-01
    COSHIP N9900T
    http://www.coship.com/CoshipEn/Default.aspx?Type=1&PROID=758&CatalogID=6864&PCID=216
    http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/COSHIP_N9900T.html
    Digital STREAM D2A1D10 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Digital_STREAM_D2A1D10.html
    Digital STREAM D2A1D20
    DigitalSTREAM DTX9900
    Note Sure which model this is
    http://www.dstreamtech.com/english/product/product_detail.asp?idx=29
    ECHOSTAR TR-40 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/EchoStar_TR-40.html
    GE 22729 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/GE_22729.html
    GE 22730 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/GE_22730.html
    Goodmind DTA1000
    Insignia NS-DXA1
    Lasonic LTA-260
    Lasonic LTR-260
    Magnavox TB100MW9
    MaxMedia MMDTVB03 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/MaxMedia_MMDTVB03.html
    MicroGEM MG2000 http://www.microgem.net/
    http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/MicroGEM_MG2000.html
    Philco TB150HH9
    RCA DTA800 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/RCA_DTA800.html
    Sansonic FT300RT http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Sansonic_FT300DT.html
    Sansonic FT300A http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Sansonic_FT300A.html
    Sansonic http://www.sansonic.net/consumer/atsc_converter.asp
    looks to be Falcon Digital http://falcondgt.com/
    Tivax STB-T9 http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Tivax_STB-T9.html
    http://designcellular.com/Wholesale.html
    Venturer STB7766G
    Zenith DTT900 http://www.zenith.com/dtv/dtt900.html
    http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Zenith_DTT900_DTV.html

    Comparison table
    http://www.freelabs.com/~whitis/electronics/dtv_converters/

    ezdigitaltv same topic
    http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Converter_Box.html

    retailer link that has some info
    http://www.king-cart.com/18inch/product=Digital+to+Analog+Converter%27s/exact_match=exact

    AVSForum Thread same topic
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948767
     
  10. Jan 5, 2008 #70 of 468
    Luke M

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    Thanks, very helpful. It seems that QAM support is not a disqualifying feature (as I had supposed), since some of these have it.

    It's strange that many boxes omit S-video output. I would avoid those.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2008 #71 of 468
    bicker

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    As is everyone else. Both sides have merit. That's the point.

    I don't think they can change the program like that. Rather, I think what could happen is that more of the auction proceeds could be allocated for more coupons, later.

    (Watch -- now someone will conveniently fail to see the word "could" and we'll have a whole 'nother set of inane messages.)
     
  12. Jan 5, 2008 #72 of 468
    fallingwater

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    It pays to request coupons now. There's nothing whatsoever to lose. With the continually growing number of converters the biggest problem will be to learn the merits of each before choosing one or two.

    I wonder what the spectrum auction will bring and how that compares with the coupon program cost and whether a gov't. subsidy for already cheap ATSC tuners makes any sense other than to get votes? (Why not beer coupons?)
     
  13. Jan 5, 2008 #73 of 468
    vman41

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  14. Jan 5, 2008 #74 of 468
    fallingwater

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    True. Considering the required limitations of qualifying 'converters' it will be interesting to see what the differences are between models from the same manufacturer.

    Isn't it also true that some of the converter models from different manufacturers are actually identical or close to it?
     
  15. Jan 5, 2008 #75 of 468
    lessd

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    Does anybody know if any of these D to A boxes will have a serial input as some cable boxes do ??
     
  16. Jan 5, 2008 #76 of 468
    MickeS

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    So do these boxes work as a cable box?

    From https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx

    So are they just full of it here, or what? I wouldn't be able to keep using my VCR at least, since it doesn't have any IR out for channel changing, if this box is like a cable box.

    Or does it somehow convert the channels to analog RF signals and just pass that on to the VCR, so the VCR works like before?
     
  17. Jan 5, 2008 #77 of 468
    Luke M

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    Correct. The only way would be if the ATSC box had a timer feature.
     
  18. Jan 5, 2008 #78 of 468
    steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    / obligatory

    What's a VCR? :confused:

    :D
     
  19. Jan 6, 2008 #79 of 468
    kreece05

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    Right now if I had to choose a DTV converter box, it would be the Zenith DTT900. Reason, it is the only box out there with complete information available including hookups and diagrams. Radio Shack has announced they will begin selling this box in late February. MSRP of $69.99.

    Updated list of NTIA approved converter boxes http://www.ntiadtv.gov/cecb_list.cfm

    Another site with lots of information, an updated list and specifications http://www.ezdigitaltv.com/Converter_Box.html
     
  20. Jan 6, 2008 #80 of 468
    fallingwater

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