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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by magnus, Jan 1, 2008.

When more information is available.... which box would you choose?

  1. DigitalSTREAM D2A1D10/D2A1D20

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Zenith DTT900

    45 vote(s)
    42.1%
  3. Magnavox TB100MW9

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Philco TB150HH9

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. MicroGEM MG2000

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Sansonic FT300RT

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. MaxMedia MMDTVB03

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Apex DT1001

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. ECHOSTAR TR-40

    35 vote(s)
    32.7%
  10. AMTC AT-2016

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
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  1. Jun 1, 2008 #421 of 468
    classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Anecdotally, I read somewhere that they were shipping RCA boxes only West of the Mississippi, Magnavox East.
     
  2. Jun 2, 2008 #422 of 468
    minenet

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    After spending a while looking for the code under:
    http://www.tivo.com/setupandsupport...ing_for_Channel_Changing_with_IR_Control.html

    I found the code for the Magnavox box TB100MW9 (the one that is sold at Walmart).

    IR Code: 10086

    It works very well on my series 2 (the only problem is I am using the satellite linup, so it pads channels with zeros - 00xx - which causes a problem for channels 10-99 as the receiver interprets it as 1.0-9.9
     
  3. Jun 3, 2008 #423 of 468
    cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    Can it switch back and forth between digital and analog TV channels? The two favorite stations (PBS) are not, yet, delivering their DTV signals to us.
     
  4. Jun 5, 2008 #424 of 468
    cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    Has anyone been able to make a TiVo Series 2 with IR Blaster control a Zenith DTT900?

    ATT/Uni...? is not in Colorado.
     
  5. Jun 5, 2008 #425 of 468
    GT1Boy

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    Yes, the trick is to set it up as an LG Cable box with IR Code 10075A, B , or C and to find a cable provider in your area that its channel lineup with same channel number as their Over The Air numbers. See my previous posts in the thread for more info...

    However, there is one big issue with this workaround with the Zenith/Insignia boxes. If you try to record two shows in succession on the same channel and that channel has multiple subchannels, the CECB will change to the next subchannel instead staying on the same one for the subsequent show. Example: TiVo is set to record two 30 min shows at 8pm and 8:30pm on channel 2. At 7:45pm CECB is on channel 6-1, at 8pm TiVo changes CECB to channel 2-1 by sending a 2 via IR Blaster to record first program. At 8:30pm, TiVo sends 2 via IR blaster to CECB but CECB changes to 2-2.

    BTW, the RCA DTA800 CECBs do not have this issue with the workaround and will just stay on the -1 channel. TiVo has said that they will provide official support for many CECBs with Series 2 TiVos in the near future. I'd expect the Zenith models will be part of that support.
     
  6. Jun 6, 2008 #426 of 468
    jd1123

    jd1123 New Member

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    still having trouble with my Digital Stream dtx9900, was considering a second dtv box, is the rca the best choice? I have a series 1 sony tivo
     
  7. Jun 6, 2008 #427 of 468
    promethious

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    I do have to do something similar. For example I have to map my OTA channel 10-1 to TWC 550 by using the channel_map script at http://www.gratisoft.us/tivo/dtv.html. Now the Tivo thinks OTA 10-1 is actually 101 (and channel 4-1 is 41). None of TWC's channels line up to their OTA counter part.

    For anyone that does telnet in to get you box working, make sure to follow all the troubleshooting instructions too otherwise every time there is a channel lineup change all your stations will revert back to the wrong ones (I have recorded several "No Signal" shows because I stopped reading the instructions when I got it working).

    http://www.9thtee.com/tivoupgrades.htm has all you need to do yours. Just follow the instructions carefully.
     
  8. Jun 8, 2008 #428 of 468
    headspin

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    So I have about six weeks until the coupon expires... given that my options are pretty much either Best Buy or finding an online store that accepts the coupons (or getting the DTX9950 which is the single model radioshack has), any suggestions what I should buy and where? I know we won't know for sure until it's too late, but any recommendations - even based on hunches - would be welcome.

    Alternatively, I could replace my series 2 Human with an HD TiVo (I'm not sure if the picture quality increase on my 37" will be good enough to lose the DVD burner) and/or finally bite the bullet and get cable service (which I really don't want to do since the cable company here is evil).

    Will my old TiVo even handle the different aspect ratio of an HDTV signal? By that I mean both for viewing programs, and for burning them to DVD?
     
  9. Jun 8, 2008 #429 of 468
    classicsat

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    My hunch is to get get a box that even partially supports IR now.

    As for aspect ratio, it will record what the box puts out, likely the 16x9 letterboxed to fit a 4x3 screen, although may have zoom or anamorphic modes.
     
  10. Jun 8, 2008 #430 of 468
    wmcbrine

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    The Digital Stream DTX9950 wouldn't be a bad choice. Otherwise, go to Best Buy and get the Insignia NS-DXA1 (which is the only model they carry). Taken together with the identical Zenith DTT900 (they differ only in name), it's the most popular and highly-regarded model, so it will surely be supported. (Note that many people say that all three of the above, as well as other models based on LG chips, have a defect in their audio output. I personally have not heard it, possibly because I've only hooked them up through RF, or because I just haven't used them enough. Anyway, the defect is supposed to be fixed (or really, worked around) in Zenith models with an April 2008 or later date. That may also apply to the others (especially the Insignia), but I'm not sure.)

    Personally I'm expecting broad support for many CECBs, and I hope that I can use my Venturer STB7766G from Target. (It has no guide, which doesn't matter in a TiVo context, but it uses the same LG chip as the above models (= good reception), and it's cheaper.)
     
  11. Jun 9, 2008 #431 of 468
    snedecor

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    Has anyone gone through this exercise in Houston area? I have a Series 1, and U-verse for Houston mis-maps several OTA stations. I have typed in probably 50 zip codes, but none of the cable systems I've found match. DirecTV has the closest match (only one station missed) but my Series 1 insists on the leading zero, which does not work on my DTA800.
     
  12. cia_viewer

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    Friday 13 June, I spent about 6 hours and off and on time with several very courteous and very patient TiVo Technical Support Agents. They admitted that working with a CECB was covering new ground.
    The goal was to get my CECB (Zenith DTT900) and TiVo Series 2 DVR (with IR Blaster) working together.

    My antenna COAX was connected to the CECB (instead of directly to TiVo).
    The CECB was connected with RF COAX and composite (r/w/y) to the TiVo.
    The TiVo remained connected to my TV with RF COAX and composite (r/w/y).
    The IR Blaster was plugged into TiVo IR Output and positioned in front of the CECB IR Sensor.

    With the TV still set at Ch3 and the TiVo also set to Ch3, I was able to view 'Live TV' by selecting Digital Channels with the CECB Remote Control.
    The TiVo Remote could adjust the TV Volume as usual. I never saw any indication that the IR Blaster communicated any signals to the CECB.

    At the end of the six hours, I spoke with a supervisor. I told him his agents were very courteous and very patient. He told me that TiVo could not work with any of the CECBs. He also said the that sometime this summer TiVo software will be updated to support 'all of the CECBs'. I told him the TiVo OTA community felt an urgency to know which CECBs could work best with TiVo.
    I have not, as yet, received an email confirming his statements.

    This is the longest period I have had the Zenith DTT900 powered up. It was just a little warm. I think it is a good thermal design.
     
  13. bicker

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    So coming to TCF first could have saved you from wasting six hours. The power of the online community! :)
     
  14. dpecs

    dpecs New Member

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    My Zenith works great with Tivo. I did the workaround mentioned and now I have full capability due to signing up for the beta testing.
     
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  16. David_NC

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    I've been waiting for the dtvpal, but while searching google for possible local retailers, have run across several reports that the price will be as much as $60.

    Does anyone know of a website that lists some useful specifications on the various converters (things like receiver sensitivity, selectivity, etc), instead of the usual list of which features each has? All I've founds is comparisons of two or three units, and then its just subjective ratings (this one receives more stations, the other one picks up weakers stations, which one looks better on their TV, etc), but not much to base a purchase on.
     
  17. cia_viewer

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    This is where I have been following the DTVPal saga:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1001979&page=32

    This site provides some comparisons:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_CECB_units
     
  18. magnus

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    I think they have all the answers needed here, to be able to get things to work. They just need to setup as another cable provider if they can't find Uverse in their area and use the codes that others have already provided to them.

     
  19. snedecor

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    I was never able to find an effortless solution, such as a Houston area cable lineup or Uverse, or even DirecTV, as I noted above. I signed up as a TiVo beta-tester, but was not invited. (maybe I forgot my deodorant....)

    Since my Series 1 was hacked, I found a local cable provider, chose RCA as the cable box (since my converter is RCA) , installed TiVoWebPlus, and remapped the channels.

    For example, I remapped channel 2 (which sent out as 002, no workie) to 21 (sends 021, RCA tunes to channel 2-1.) I remapped 13 to 131. Same for all the other OTA channels.

    I guess the only down-side right now is that I can't get guide data for any of the sub-channels (most of which are weather, music video's etc.) and that I'll have to re-map when the cable lineup changes. That's one reason I went with cable, their lineups change far less frequently than satellite.

    Good luck, everyone.
     
  20. rainbow

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    Just as an fyi - Radio Shack, just today, has the Zenith DDT901's in stock in their main warehouse. Price - $59.99. You can use the coupon for it. To get it thru their warehouse, call 1-877-773-8848, give them the cpn # and a credit card # for the approx $22 balance, and they will ship it to your home.

    The person I spoke with said that today was the 1st day they are selling them.
     

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