Digital Converter Box Coupon Site

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by magnus, Jan 1, 2008.

When more information is available.... which box would you choose?

  1. DigitalSTREAM D2A1D10/D2A1D20

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Zenith DTT900

    45 vote(s)
    42.1%
  3. Magnavox TB100MW9

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Philco TB150HH9

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. MicroGEM MG2000

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Sansonic FT300RT

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. MaxMedia MMDTVB03

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Apex DT1001

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. ECHOSTAR TR-40

    35 vote(s)
    32.7%
  10. AMTC AT-2016

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Apr 9, 2008 #321 of 468
    SMWinnie

    SMWinnie Dis Member

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    Random data point: I applied for my coupons on January 4th and they arrived today, good through the end of June.

    Not planning to use them with my standalone 540x - these are for my parents.
     
  2. Apr 9, 2008 #322 of 468
    swahl

    swahl New Member

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    Normally I'd agree, esp. wrt the microcontroller. But any significant amount of funds could be spent toward a TivoHD or series 2, although I'd lose the lifetime subscription.

    On the cheap -- disregarding cost of electricity :) -- I have a few PC carcases around, and even a linux machine already running next to my tivo. It'd at least make a good proof of concept before diving into development of a smaller solution.

    Oh, and thanks for the pointer to the phrase "ir translator". I plug that into Google and find that somebody has already had some success doing something similar for a panasonic DVR.
     
  3. TiVoJedi

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    I sent you a PM. I would definitely like one of them as the government fell short and the postal service has failed to deliver mine (to me anyway) (my reference number is three thousand, five hundred, XX, one of the first applicants before the sun even came up on 1/1/08).

    The program rules changed and these are legally transferable now:
    http://ntiadtv.custhelp.com/cgi-bin...y5zZWFyY2hfbmwmcF9wYWdlPTE*&p_li=&p_topview=1
     
  4. stahta01

    stahta01 Simple Member

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    I was just today thinking if I could build an "IR Translator" to make my yet to be determined CECB box work with my TiVo.

    The design at http://bvwelch.com/projects/ir2.htm is slightly different than I was planing, it looks to be using lower priced components than what I knew existed.

    I think that I will try to create one myself.

    Tim S
     
  5. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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  6. nachogy

    nachogy New Member

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    I saw your post on the RCA DTA800. I got that converter box and tried hooking it up to HUMAX S2. It did not work. I tried telling it that it was a cable box, the picture came through but could not change the channel. I tried to the ir transimittor to the tivo but that did not seem to get it to change the channel. I have not used those before (they were stuck in a closet), so I dont know if they are working or not. Did you have to do anything special like telling the S2 that it was a cable box?
     
  7. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    1) Find guide data that closely resembles the channels that you would get via OTA. Play around with the zips until you find one that has ATT Uverse in your area. That is what is working for me.

    http://tvlistings.aol.com/listings/state/city/provider?zipcode=&elicit=non_auth_location


    2) rerun guided setup
    3) choose cable with box
    4) choose RCA box
    5) choose 2 digit channel changing

    I am using a standard pair of Tivo IR control cables.

    You will only be able to get the main channels using this technique (until Tivo has a software update... if they do).

    Cable (ATT Uverse) --> Digital Converter
    04 --> 04-1
    68 --> 68-1

    Using this method you won't be able to get to the other sub channels like 68-2 for example but you'll still be able to watch much clearer TV than before with a pair of rabbit ears.

    Also, this method does not require your box to be hacked. However, if it were you might be able to get all the sub channels.... but that's a different story.




     
  8. fallingwater

    fallingwater New Member

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    I've been away from the TiVo Forums and didn't see your post until now. Unfortunately when I learned that I had goofed regarding the cut-off date and hadn't gotten any requests I dropped both coupons off at the local Best Buy. Wish I'd known!

    Thanks for posting the rules change update. Makes perfect sense! Perhaps another Forum member can help you and the other guy who PM'd me.
     
  9. JanellZ71

    JanellZ71 New Member

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    I am interested in using the Digital Stream DTX-9900 converter box with either my Series2 or Toshiba Tivo Series2 for OTA reception. Has anyone figured out a workaround solution with the IR blasters and this particular CECB unit? If so, could you post some step-by-step instructions for setup?
     
  10. theplunger53

    theplunger53 New Member

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    It's getting time to choose a box before coupon expires. I what a box that works with my series one and series two. Reading posts above, it looks like tivo wont support them or they wont till I will need to use my coupons. What are my options? :(
     
  11. JanellZ71

    JanellZ71 New Member

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    Channel Master CM-7000 uses Pioneer cable box remote codes
    LG's Zenith DTT900 uses the same remote code as the LG brand DirecTv satellite tuner (try using IR code "10075-B")
    LG's Insignia NS-DXA1 same as the Zenith DTT900 above
    RCA DTA800B uses the same remote code as the RCA brand DirecTv satellite receiver

    NOTES: you may need to turn off the converter box's "Power Down" setting, and you will need to use the touchy IR Blasters.

    theplunger53, since you are running out of time to utilize your coupon, you might as well try one of these, and run Tivo's Guided Setup. While this is not a Tivo supported solution (doesn't allow you to record from any of the sub-channels), you will enjoy great over-the-air digital programming.
     
  12. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Also, it's best to use ATT Uverse (cable) as the provider when using one of these boxes because it closely matches the local channels (at least for me it does).

    I agree... you might as well get one of these boxes that already works with the main channels.
     
  13. kagi.anirik

    kagi.anirik New Member

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    Thanks a lot Magnus, using the RCA DTA800 converter, picked up for less than $13 out the door at Walmart using the federal coupon, all the standard channels work just fine. Really wish that Tivo would simply make an Digital OTA cable setup for the major urban areas that allows you to select your version of box - I really can't imagine it being a huge issue, especially since they'll do custom setups for mini-prodivers.

    Highly recommend the RCA unit, for those interested - mother ended up with the Zenith and is highly disappointed about the buzzing that comes through on the audio. Returns are tricky due to the coupon. Thanks again Magnus!
     
  14. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    They want to do something for all "affected" customers, including those in the middle of nowhere, and have as near full support for all digital OTA channels they can. Which means an "Antenna with box option" in guided setup, and proper support for "xx-x" channels in the guide and channel changing. No need for a particular box is needed, just add IR codes. They all apparently change channels the same way.

    Making a fake digital OTA lineup for a box supported service is just a half baked hack TiVo would just not do on a large scale.
     
  15. TheGreenHornet

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    Jeffersonvil...
    Let me see if I understand JanellZ71 correctly with this senerio.

    It is a cold damp day in the Philly burbs and a perfect day for an electronics project. In my home office I have my 13 year old Sony Trinitron and my series 2 Tivo that have been updated with a plasma and series 3 tivo working like a champ with OTA. The Sony and series 2 are not hooked up but still have years of life left to them once connected in my office via OTA.

    So I have been following this thread closely over time. From what I understand from this post - I can take a ride over to Best Buy this afternoon and purchase the Insignia NS-DXA1.

    Come home and hook up the series 2 and the converter box. Run the house antenna into the converter box and from the box to the tivo 2 antenna jack via a coxial cable. Connect the Tivo2 to the analog TV via the 3 colored jacks (red-white-yellow) What no S Video jack!

    Run the guided setup and in this example and choose the LG DirecTv satellite tuner as if I have satellite. The Tivo will see the main OTA digital channels (3.1 - 6.1- 10.1 etc as 3 - 6- 10). Delete anything in the channels listing it thinks it sees other than the locals.

    The Tivo remote will see the converter box as it once saw a cable box and change the channels on the box. I will then see the digital main HD channels via OTA of the local Philly stations down converted on my Sony analog TV. I have no interest in the sub channels just the main channels.

    So now I can schedule for tonight on the series Tivo series 2 to watch later in digitial clarity:

    Big Brother at 8PM to record on CBS3 (3.1)

    Psych at 9PM to record on NBC10 (10.1)

    Brothers & Sisters at 10PM to record on 6ABC (6.1)

    So do I understand this correctly? Not only do I have an afternoon Sunday project but those series 2 OTA users with coupons about to expire are going to have a win! Those users can now resolve their anxiety that their beloved sole Tivo 2 and analog TVs via free OTA will work with the pending digital conversion? Nor do those S2 OTA users have to wait and wonder if Tivo will actually supply codes for the converter boxes on the market?
     
  16. TheGreenHornet

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    Jeffersonvil...
    Originally Posted by JanellZ71
    Channel Master CM-7000 uses Pioneer cable box remote codes

    Groovy! I was just looking at the Channel Master specs for their box and it does have an S Video jack. We may have a winner here!

    For me, it is worth the extra money spent with the coupon for the better quality video signal for my mature Tivo Series 2 and Sony Trinitron TV.

    My net costs would be $40 for the Channel Master box which will pay for it's self after 2 months of bagging Comcast basic cable as back up at $20 per month.
     
  17. kagi.anirik

    kagi.anirik New Member

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    This was exactly the scenario I was in; had a Series 2 Tivo, the converter box coupon, and an OTA antenna at work. After following the instructions from Magnus, and spending a bit of time waiting and playing, recording off the main digital OTA channels for my area - Nascar on Fox right now, Big Brother at 8pm, Saturday Night Live from last night. The AT&T Unverse does not have all local stations on it, but it's as close as I'm going to find using the box codes, for now. $14 was a heck of a lot cheaper than $350 for a business install of the local cable.
     
  18. bgiannes

    bgiannes New Member

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    I got the LG's Insignia NS-DXA1 same as the Zenith DTT900, as my coupon was running out and it was the only one that bestbuy had.

    anyway, it works get, even with a cheap indoor antenna!

    my next step it to have the TWC disconneted, hope my tivo series 2 re-programing to the converter goes okay, no money for cable anymore :(

    i'm going to be setting up this Satur-sunday...
     
  19. GT1Boy

    GT1Boy got tivo?

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    After reading this thread I picked up the Insignia NS-DXA1 a couple weekends back to use with an old Series 2 on my kid's TV. After hooking up the converter and ir blaster, I reran Guided Setup and choose the LG Directv box with the 10075-B codes.

    While the TiVo will now change channels on the converter, it is sending a leading zero which is causing problems. It works fine for single digit channels where 02 from the TiVo becomes 2 and then 2-1 by the converter. But when the TiVo sends 012 for channel 12 the converter will change channel to 1-2. For my OTA channel lineup, I'm now able to use the TiVo to successfully change the channel on the converter to channels 2,6,8 to 2-1,6-1,8-1 but 12,24,32,49 will result in the converter trying to change to channels 1-2, 2-4, 3-2, 4-9 respectively. The only option in Advanced Channel Changing settings for the LG DirecTV box on the TiVo is turning off/on Enter key which made no difference.

    Has everyone else with Zenith or Insignia boxes run into this same issue?

    It now sounds like the RCA DTA800B boxes from Walmart work flawlessly with the workaround now. If so, I may have to pick up an RCA box with my other coupon and give the Insignia to my in-laws...
     
  20. bgiannes

    bgiannes New Member

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    gt1boy,

    mmm..... looks like we are in the same boat, when i get home i'm going to take a good look at setting it up.

    have you tryed setting up tivo with a different LG receiver product? Also i seem to remember during the receiver IR setup you can tell tivo to use 0 or 00 and enters with channel changers? Can you tell it to drop the zeros?


    follow up: what if you go back into the Insignia NS-DXA1 channel setup and del the "in-between" channels the tivo2 can't use anyway. That way when the tivo enters 012 it cant go to channel 1-2 and then will go to 12?? but if you have a channel 2-1 and a 21 you will not be about to turn to channel 21
     

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