Digital Converter Box Coupon Site

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by magnus, Jan 1, 2008.

When more information is available.... which box would you choose?

  1. DigitalSTREAM D2A1D10/D2A1D20

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Zenith DTT900

    45 vote(s)
    42.1%
  3. Magnavox TB100MW9

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Philco TB150HH9

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. MicroGEM MG2000

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Sansonic FT300RT

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. MaxMedia MMDTVB03

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Apex DT1001

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. ECHOSTAR TR-40

    35 vote(s)
    32.7%
  10. AMTC AT-2016

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    1) Can you successfully record Analog Stations with DTA800B powered off?
    2) Can you successfully record Analog Stations with DTA800B powered on?
    3) Can you easily add channels not included in original scan?
    4) Can you easily remove then 're-add' channels?

    5) Was TiVo support needed to get this working or is there some preprogrammed option available to do it? If existing option works for RCA DTA800B what was it, please?
     
  2. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    RCA DTA800 w/ cable (only for the main channels - no sub channels). Satellite does not work but would work in the method I explained in earlier posts.

     
  3. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Yes, it works for the digital channels (main channels - no sub channels).

    The box does not have support for analog channels.
    1) Cannot record anything with it turned off. You'll need to set the DTA800 to never go into standby (I could never get the Tivo to wake it up).
    2) It does not record analog channels (does not tune to them).
    3) Yes, seems like you can just re-scan.
    4) Yes, you can effectively skip the channel then add it back.
    5) There is no Tivo support. They were not helpful at all. Told me to get satellite or cable.

    Re-do guided setup and choose cable w/ RCA box. But you'll need to find a channel listing that closely matches your locals. Remember that this will only get the main channels and not the sub channels (Tivo WILL need to provide some sort of support for that to work).


     
  4. larkor

    larkor New Member

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    You can record analog channels if you choose satellite with antenna and split the antenna input to the tivo and coverter. Lockout all the analog stations except the ones you want.
     
  5. Apr 1, 2008 #305 of 468
    magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    But you won't be able to use the digital converter box with it then because you must choose cable for this to work. The 3 digit codes are seen as....

    004 --> 00-4 (where the desired effect is for the Tivo to change the box to channel 04).


     
  6. Apr 1, 2008 #306 of 468
    cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    Thank you.

    I live north of Denver.
    2) Quite discouraging. At this point almost all recording I do is from OTA Analog. I can only receive four DTV channels (Two in English).
    3) 'just re-scan' Does this mean 'erase all previous scan results' and do an all new just re-scan? OR select a channel and 'just re-scan' for its 'signal?

    I guess I should keep looking for a better CECB, especially in light some negative comments about the RCA DTA-800...

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=980052&page=31

    #902 :
    RCA - DTA-800
    ? 3 units purchased on-line from Plano Tx Walmart
    ? Fails taboo channel rejection

    I do not understand 'taboo channel rejection' and whether it pertains to OTA or not.
    Some others claimed poor reception with the RCA DTA-800B

    Again, Thank you.
     
  7. Apr 4, 2008 #307 of 468
    magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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  8. Apr 5, 2008 #308 of 468
    fallingwater

    fallingwater New Member

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    Hi gang;

    I received two Converter Box Coupons, good through May 31.

    Not surprisingly none of the approved Converter Boxes appears to receive unscrambled QAM. (Please clue me if I'm wrong!)

    I've got too much electronic junque as it is, including several ATSC/QAM tuner boxes.

    If you need a Converter Box Coupon, send me a PM. Totally free!
     
  9. Apr 5, 2008 #309 of 468
    gordonzo

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  10. Apr 6, 2008 #310 of 468
    alansh

    alansh Active Member

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    The purpose of the coupon program is so that existing analog TV owners who only get OTA stations won't have a boat anchor next February. So the eligable boxes won't do QAM or hi-def.
     
  11. Apr 6, 2008 #311 of 468
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    I hate to tell you, but the coupons are non-transferrable.

    Instead of giving away the coupons, you could buy a couple of boxes and sell or give them away.
     
  12. Apr 6, 2008 #312 of 468
    fallingwater

    fallingwater New Member

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    When the coupon program first began at least one converter box spec. indicated QAM capability. Knowing the reason for the program and the need to keep costs down it's not surprising to see that QAM isn't an option.

    Here's what the Converter Box FAQ's say:

    https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx

    11.Are nursing homes, group homes and other institutions eligible for coupons? Applicants must meet the Census definition of a household as consisting of “all persons who currently occupy a house, apartment, mobile home, group of rooms, or single room that is occupied as separate living quarters and has a separate U.S. postal address.” A household is defined as separate living quarters with a separate U.S. Postal address. This definition includes all households located in U.S. Territories, but does not include Post Office Boxes.
    12.Can I apply for someone who is unable to apply for themselves, such as an elderly parent? Yes, but you will need to use their home address which will be validated for eligibility. Only two coupons can be used per U.S. household address, and the coupons are intended for the resident of that household.
    13.What if I receive my mail at a Post Office Box? The government can mail coupons to Post Office boxes in areas without home mail delivery. Post Office boxes will be accepted only for households on Indian reservations, Alaskan Native villages and other rural areas. The government may request additional information to validate the physical location of these households.


    "Only two coupons can be used per U.S. household address, and the coupons are intended for the resident of that household." The coupons look like credit cards. There is no information on a coupon which identifies the household which applied for it. On the back of a coupon is the statement; "It is illegal to sell, duplicate or tamper with this coupon."

    I've got two coupons good through May 31. If a Forum member qualifies for a coupon (on your honor) but failed to apply in time, and can use it, send me a PM and we'll go from there.
     
  13. Apr 6, 2008 #313 of 468
    steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    That's great and all, and I really appreciate Tivo for acknowleging ...
    but what we REALLY need to know is which boxes we need to look at getting before our coupons expire.
     
  14. Apr 6, 2008 #314 of 468
    magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Yep, and all I can say is that the RCA DTA800 works (for the most part) with my S2 Tivo.

    So, unless others post their test results here then I would suggest getting one of those boxes. If you get close to the expiration date and Tivo does not give a word on which boxes they will support.

     
  15. Apr 6, 2008 #315 of 468
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    Nothing in plain text, but there's a number which could index a database.

    You can still apply right now.
     
  16. Apr 6, 2008 #316 of 468
    fallingwater

    fallingwater New Member

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    Could? Well I suppose the Converter Police could haul me off.

    https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx
    The website states March 31 as the deadline.

    If no one wants 'em I'll drop 'em off at the local BB or CC by the box displays.
     
  17. Apr 7, 2008 #317 of 468
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    2009.
     
  18. Apr 7, 2008 #318 of 468
    fallingwater

    fallingwater New Member

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    Curses (expletive deleted), I'm stupid, you're right!

    OK, I'm off to BB or CC!

    http://www.ntia.doc.gov/dtvcoupon/status.html

    According to the above link less than half the initial batch of 22.25 million coupons have been applied for. Then, if needed, there would be 11.25 million more for OTA only folks.
     
  19. Apr 9, 2008 #319 of 468
    swahl

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    I have a series 1 w/ lifetime, and use over the air programming exclusively. Reading some other threads, in particular ones that mention that series 2+ use new development tools unavailable to series 1 (screen design, in particular; I believe the discussion on folders in now showing may be pertinent), I am even less hopeful that a CECB software update option will be available for series 1, even if it does eventually show for series 2.

    Any reason I can't A) purchase a converter box, B) set up TiVo as if I'm connected to cable with a box, deleting / marking as unwatched all channels not available over the air, and C) using a device to translate from the channel numbers TiVo tries to send to the cable box to channel numbers that the converter box understands?

    For the translation device, I could use an old PC running linux with LIRC, or even some MS-DOS equivalent. Interpret the incoming IR signals (probably hardwired from the IR emitter output of the TiVo), go to a translation table, and output the IR signals necessary to set the converter box to the correct channel.

    What are the pitfalls any of you can see?
     
  20. Apr 9, 2008 #320 of 468
    classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    You could do that, with some success or use an IR translator for full suppot.

    IMO, a PC is a little "too much" for the task. If I were in the situation, I'd either take the next level and have the PC be my DVR, or bould a small non-PC microcontroller board to translate for me.
     

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