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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by magnus, Jan 1, 2008.

When more information is available.... which box would you choose?

  1. DigitalSTREAM D2A1D10/D2A1D20

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Zenith DTT900

    45 vote(s)
    42.1%
  3. Magnavox TB100MW9

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Philco TB150HH9

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. MicroGEM MG2000

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Sansonic FT300RT

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. MaxMedia MMDTVB03

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Apex DT1001

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. ECHOSTAR TR-40

    35 vote(s)
    32.7%
  10. AMTC AT-2016

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
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  1. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    No. I didn't say anything of the sort.

    But, yes, a TiVo HD is an alternative for OTA users and not a bad one....
     
  2. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    and the people holding onto S2(before S3 options) regardless of changes on the HD front or those with s2 wanting something to fix their "no more analog OTA" issue is not sticky??

    Or TiVo hanging in there as a company despite many, many rough financial quarters is not sticky enough for you??
     
  3. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    No we shoudn't. The initial purpose of the CECB program was to provide affordable basic convertor boxes that would do no more than keep older TVs in service, for lower income households, that receive their TV only from antenna,
    not a subsidy for relatively premium HD gear. It is bad enough that anybody, for now, is being allowed to get coupons.
     
  4. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    I will have to admit sometimes the things that people debate here give me great amusement. The issue with what the term "stickiness" means is one of those. The way everyone is trying to use the word "stickiness" is nothing more than commercial slang. It has nothing to do with the dictionary meaning of stickiness. So given that it is nothing more than a slang term I guess it can mean anything you want it to.

    Thanks,
     
  5. rodbac

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    Er, just because it's a slang term doesn't mean the word has no meaning.

    Sure, you can argue until you're blue in the face that "stickiness" refers to the color of a product or whatever other bizarre meaning you want, but that doesn't change what the term actually means.

    In this case, it's well-known that the word refers to a product's tendency to retain customers, which is obviously an independent trait of a number of other traits of the product, including its profitability (and color, etc).

    That said, if someone wants to give everyone their personal definition, we can have a meaningful discussion about how profits affect it. Outside of that, there is nothing to discuss, really.

    In other words, if the term "sticky" is throwing you off, don't use it and instead just say "People tend to stick with Tivos once they've bought one, just like they do with iPods".

    Calling them both "sticky" is easier, though.
     
  6. bicker

    bicker bUU

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    [​IMG]
     
  7. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    cool
     
  8. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Why is it bad? The FCC made BILLIONS auctioning off spectrum to make this change, why should the consumer foot the entire bill while the government profits?
     
  9. rodbac

    rodbac New Member

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    Because that money is effectively a big, one-time tax paid only by the purchaser.

    "The government" making billions is you and me making billions, and it's pretty easy to argue there are better ways to spend our money than putting high-end HD equipment in everyone's living room.
     
  10. MickeS

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    Here's what I think TiVo should do: tell ALL the Series 1 (OTA or not) and Series 2 customers that those who only use OTA (TiVo seems to have that info, as the channel line-up shows online) that they will offer a $40 discount (same as the government discount) and 2 years free service to those who upgrade to a TiVoHD. Those who have lifetime on the old TiVo units will be allowed to transfer that LT free of charge to a new TiVoHD.

    Something like that at least, it would make the most sense to me (note, I would not be eligible, as my Series 2 doesn't use the OTA line-up :)).
     
  11. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Interesting.

    So now we've given the FCC authority to tax us without representation from Congress?
     
  12. ZeoTiVo

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    umm, Congress authorized the whole thing and controls the money received.

    PS - If someone wants a TiVo HD in their living room and 40$ is a deal breaker then they have better things to spend thier money on ;)
     
  13. rodbac

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    Even if you ignore what Zeo said (which you shouldn't), when it's voluntary, yes, of course we have.

    You're *never* limited in how much money you give the government, you know- you can send in as much as you want.
     
  14. bicker

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    Since we disagree so often, and so thoroughly on so many things, I thought it was important to highlight when you say something I agree with 100%.
     
  15. rodbac

    rodbac New Member

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    :) I don't do that often enough and should. I (and I guess many others) tend to only post when I have a contention.
     
  16. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    Are there any more ideas on this? My meter is running (28 May) and I do not feel I know enough to pick my 'prize'.
     
  17. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    I wonder if anyone has bought and installed a CECB, then was successful with TiVo Technical Support's help getting the system running?
    e.g.: recording scheduled programs from a digital TV broadcast on their TiVo S2 DVR.

    That is my goal. I do not care if I must use the 'manual record menu' (specify channel, date, start time, end time).
     
  18. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Hello?!?
     
  19. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I'd jump on that. Won't happen though.
    They'll at least charge $199 and since Tivo assumes lifetime to last 4 - 4.5 years I wouldn't qualify until the end of 2009 or 2010! :eek:


    That doesn't rule out a ''special'' promomtion, as I predict Tivo will do something just before next Christmas.
    Like, "Hurry, get a TivoHD before the analog cutoff". :)
     
  20. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    Read magnus' postings. They supposedly got an RCA box working in satellite box mode with some satellite guide data.

    TiVo support won't help with CECBs, since they are officially not supported.
     

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