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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by magnus, Jan 1, 2008.

When more information is available.... which box would you choose?

  1. DigitalSTREAM D2A1D10/D2A1D20

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  2. Zenith DTT900

    45 vote(s)
    42.1%
  3. Magnavox TB100MW9

    10 vote(s)
    9.3%
  4. Philco TB150HH9

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  5. MicroGEM MG2000

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Sansonic FT300RT

    4 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. MaxMedia MMDTVB03

    2 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. Apex DT1001

    3 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. ECHOSTAR TR-40

    35 vote(s)
    32.7%
  10. AMTC AT-2016

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    I wonder if we can come up with the properties that are critical in a CECB (Converter Box) to get an Analog TiVo DVR recording for Digital OTA TV?
    (At least manual recording by channel and time start, stop)

    1) Analog Pass: Indicates whether the CECB allows analog signal passthrough when not Powered on. (to continue recording analog programs before Feb 2009)

    2) EZ Add stations (Supplement results of scan e.g.: antenna rotor)

    3) Some? (defined???) capability to turn on and control CECB synchronized with recording schedule.

    4) ...?

    I hope that we can, collectively, build up this list of CECB features that are critical to TiVo DVR recording. I suppose there may be differences between series 2 and series 3 that effect this. I do not know. I certainly do not know enough to 'build out' this list!
     
  2. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    OH! I phoned the store where I recently bought my TiVo HD DVR. Thank you!
     
  3. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    yah, series 3 can use a digital antenna right now and not even notice the transition date when it happens ;)
     
  4. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

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    As far as TiVo is concerned, it only needs A/V out and IR control. That is if TiVo does incorporate digital OTA box support.
    If that can be set by timer.
    If you mean if TiVo were not to chose to support digital OTA boxes, said boxes would have to support a good number of timers.
     
  5. dark4night

    dark4night New Member

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    I just got off the phone with Will from tier 2 Tivo support. We were troubleshooting some Series 2 to Tivo HD show transfer issues and I slipped in some questions about Series 2 supporting digital converter boxes. He said it is not official but a "software update to control digitial converter boxes is being worked on." He said that Tivo will "not leave their Series 2 customers out in the cold." He even used the example that the first Series 3 Tivos could not transfer shows over the network. Tivo listened to their customers and fixed the issue. So he basically said hang on while they work on the issue. Also, they have not been able to keep up with Forums and so it has been difficult to battle customer's concerns which are compound as more people post.

    Hope that helps.

    -D
    :)
     
  6. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    I'll believe it when I hear it from Tivo. Since I've already heard from several representatives that Tivo will not be doing this update... I'll be very skeptical till then.
     
  7. MighTiVo

    MighTiVo TiVotarian

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    That sounds great, so lets get a post over here and a beta program started for testing!
     
  8. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    It is possible to transfer shows from TiVo 2 to TiVo HD?!?

    We have a couple of shows recorded on our TiVo 2 (ModlNo: TCD240040).
    It would be a lot more convenient to watch them with our new TiVo HD.

    How is a transfer done?
     
  9. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    It is possible or very likely I do not understand the 'Analog Pass Through'. I have assumed that it meant 'channel 6' would pass through the 'powered off' CECB and into the TiVo as channel 6, not as an anonymous channel (3/4).
     
  10. rodbac

    rodbac New Member

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    Of course it is. I do it nearly every day.

    I haven't read the thread- is this something considered impossible?
     
  11. MrPhilo

    MrPhilo New Member

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    About Will knowing the scoop. I think Tivo's silence on the matter officially (CSRs are not official spokespeople) most likely means they haven't decided what to do yet. They already support the digital channels in the back end for the S3s and HDs, so that part is done - just have to get the S2 to talk to that part (don't know how the architecture works), then get the S2 to talk to the CECB. That last part seems to me to be the hard part - lots of boxes and combinations, and they haven't been available for very long. Everything else they've done already. And box control they already do - these are just new boxes that act differently.

    But it is still time and money to keep a dwindling number of existing customers happy, when they'd love to convert them to a newer box and a longer subscription time. I know I'd be happier about switching to a new tivo in the future if they do handle the CECBs. (In this case happier= much more likely to just get a new TiVo instead of researching alternatives)

    So my plan is to wait until a) Tivo says what they'll do and which box to get or b) the coupons start to run low, and hope Tivo does something in the 90 days I have to get a box (or that I guess correctly about which one to get).
     
  12. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    Does anyone recognize within the available CECBs manufacturers or chipsets that TiVo has already created IR interfaces for. (e.g.: CECB 'zwq' should be easy for TiVo to control with an IR Blaster because they already can control box 'xwz' made by the same manufacturer.)

    I know this forum, collectively, has a lot more wisdom than I!

    (I may be overly anxious because my coupons expire 28 May.)
     
  13. cia_viewer

    cia_viewer New Member

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    My learning curve!

    Where do I start. Is it a transfer over USB cable?
     
  14. carroca

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  15. bicker

    bicker bUU

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    I don't see any reason to believe that perspective is widely held far beyond the bounds of the online community.
     
  16. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Always the pessimist.... I agree.

     
  17. MighTiVo

    MighTiVo TiVotarian

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    Why not?
    It allows an easy less painful way to walk into the future without creating an opportunity for someone to switch to a competitive platform.

    Right now everyone will be pushing digital tuners to work with older TVs as we cut off analog.

    Forcing the obsolesce prematurely will likely drive users to investigate other platforms.

    To the contrary, members here in the forum may even come up with some unsupported solution...

    If nothing else an ATSC tuner connected to a PC running DVR software and saving programs to a directory, converting those programs to a compatible format and publishing with TiVo desktop.

    Non forum members are the ones that need an easy to use solution that works just like a cable box or satellite tuner does today.
     
  18. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Done.

     
  19. MrPhilo

    MrPhilo New Member

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    I think it is a reasonable generalized attitude. If people have a good experience and are treated well by a company (eg, Tivo adds support to S2s for CECBs), then I am more like to give repeat business to that company and to recommend it to others. But if they don't, or worse, they treat me badly (if they cut off my lifetime subs because I can't get analog signals OTA; or like the custom cabinet maker who did shoddy work for me - I'll never go back, and I tell people not to buy from him). A company treats you right and does extra things that they don't have to, you are more likely to do repeat business with.

    I'm not sure I expressed my sentiment clearly in the first place, but the idea is that someday, my current S2 will die, and I'll need to replace it. If TiVo has treated me well, I'm going with what I know, rather than checking out other options.
     
  20. bicker

    bicker bUU

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    Because that issue is a too low level of a detail for most of those folks to concern themselves about.
     

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