Diehard Tivo user - effect of HD price

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Ariel817, Nov 27, 2006.

  1. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    No, your opinion is informed by TiVo, which almost by definition makes it less valuable.

    :rolleyes:

    So when are you going to stop Trolling for TiVo, and stop telling folks in the Forum what is wrong is right and what they know they don't know?

    Will you actually make an attempt to learn what really makes for a successful business strategy, and to think for yourself, or remain a lemming?
     
  2. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    Let's put something to rest here.

    Only a TiVo Troll gives a damn about what TiVo's target market and expectations are for the S3.

    What customers, shareholders and other TiVo cheerleaders care about is whether TiVo picked the right strategy and goals.
     
  3. jmoak

    jmoak Beware of Conky!

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    Ya know, there are folks who don't give a damn about what TiVo's target market and expectations are for the S3 or if TiVo picked the right strategy and goals.

    Some just want a good, dependable, full featured media box/dvr that we can count on to work.

    ... as hard as that may be to believe.
    ;)
     
  4. c3

    c3 TiVoholic

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    Financially, it's a very simple decision for me. It's either paying Comcast $16.50/month and get a S3, or paying Comcast $70/month for their DVR. If/when TiVo enables more features, it's very likely I'll get another S3.
     
  5. TAsunder

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

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    WTF... I thought I would have to pay a lot. $54/month for a DVR???
     
  6. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    so when did it slip from fanboy to zealot to troll then cheerleader. It is an interessting concept to be a TiVo troll on a TiVo specific forum. ;)

    anyhow - if someone thinks 680$ which is the street price for the S3 nowadays is too high then it is too high -- for them. Yes , there are a fair number of people here who think it is too high and frankly I am one of them. I just use extended basic cable and will be getting another TiVo soon to be my dedicated sci-fi box. I am stuck between a DT for 70$ or so and an S3 for 680$ - Thing is I am not big on the extra cost of digital cable or HD. So I may let the lifetime offer slip away and go with a DT - I simply don't need the extra that S3 brings and I do use MRV and TTG quite a bit.

    but to go from that type of thinking on a personal level to one of therefore TiVo inc. has made a big mistake pricing it so high is just jumping off a speculation cliff. No one here has the data to abck that up and even with the earnings report we still would not know the target numbers TiVo has in mind. So we do not even know if they are executing their business plan let alone if it is good or not. Just silly to say otherwise.

    but please continue to entertain us.
     
  7. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    Those would be customers and potential customers. Do you think there are enough that don't care what prices TiVo charges (part of strategy) to make that not matter? Do you think that strategy has no bearing on achieving 'dependable, full featured media box/dvr'?
     
  8. MediaLivingRoom

    MediaLivingRoom New Member

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    I want it for $199
     
  9. c3

    c3 TiVoholic

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    Might as well ask for free. :rolleyes:
     
  10. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    Does TiVo sell 'it'?
     
  11. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    Just because you can afford something doesn't mean it's a good idea to buy it.

    Two S3 for $1600? Nope.

    And I've dropped more than that on a watch. On a whim.

    Go figure.
     
  12. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    No one is comparing the S1/S2 to the S3. The argument here is the same as always: Tivo S3 vs. Cable HD DVR. The gist of it is that the S3 does not offer substantially more than the Cable Company, but wants a substantially greater price. MRV alone (IMO) would be "substantially greater" than the Cable DVR.

    We all know that Tivo cannot afford to subsidize their units to the same extent as Big Cable. That's not the point.

    As we have seen over the past few months, Tivo continues to slowly alienate their loyal fans with lack of features, lack of support, and price hikes that make even me cringe.

    Can I afford the S3? Of course. Am I willing to shell out $1360 plus $40 per month for two of them? No.

    Tivo needs to offer me something worth spending more than the $25 / month I spend now for my cable DVRs, which haven't given me any problems. The interface alone just isn't enough.

    I really shouldn't have clicked this thread...
     
  13. jmoak

    jmoak Beware of Conky!

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    "customers and potential customers"? Naaaa, that's just what I think.

    I have no friggin' idea what others think.

    I'm just not clairvoyant enough to make definitive statements about the thoughts and cares of other tivo users/potential tivo users.

    But at least I hope it helps in putting something to rest here.

    ;)
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    sign of a joke or good natured ribbing.
    not to be taken as a cut or putdown
     
  14. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    Not really.
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    sign of a joke or good natured ribbing.
    not to be taken as a cut or putdown
     
  15. kido

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    classicX,

    why don't you lay out some real world numbers for us then? who is your current cable provider, your current cable package and how much to you pay total per month for it? this will let us all see the benefits to the multiple cable dvr solution.

    kido
     
  16. CTLesq

    CTLesq Active Member

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    Allow me to edit your comment:

    Just because you can afford something doesn't mean it's a good idea to buy it (based on what I think) .

    Yet again, you would drop 1600 on a watch. Great. If someone else wants to drop 1600 on a TiVo - why are they wrong?
     
  17. ChuckyBox

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    I don't think anyone would argue with you about that. That's your view of the equation from your perspective: the S3 with the current features and pricing isn't a compelling offer to you. That is an utterly unassailable position because it is your decision and your money. We might have a discussion along the lines of "have you thought about this..." or "did you consider that the S3 will do such and such...", but I'm not going to try to refute your reasons for not getting an S3.

    The thing I object to is the mentality "because I don't like it, someone did something wrong." It is an infantile response to not getting something one wants. The fact is, anything the company does is going to "alienate their loyal fans." If they made the service free, it would piss off all the people who bought lifetime last year and got "ripped off."
     
  18. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    That part of the post if just Trolling. The people who are obviously serious about thinking and discussing these subjects are not infantile, nor are they saying "because I don't like it, someone did something wrong." However you continue to respond to them as if they had, creating a false sense of context to suit your comments.
     
  19. xmasboy@the-char

    xmasboy@the-char xmasboy

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    I have a series 2 with lifetime subscription and I fully agree with the comments on the pricing. I can afford the $1000, but do I want to? I paid the lifetime fee, and I confess, at the time I paid it I thought it was a "lifetime" fee. It was some time later I realized it was life of the product. Anyhow some 3 - 4 years later it has easily been worth it. But now back to this, I don't have cable. I do not live in an area where cable is an option. I've been waiting for HD capable Tivo, whatever the cost. But alas, it will not work with satellite. Add that to the fact that Tivo still does not have a Mac version of Tivo Desktop after at least a year of implying it was coming, and I'm sad to say I have made the switch to Dish Networks DVR that has dual tuner and is HD capable. My cost? $200. They don't offer lifetime service for the DVR but is only $6.00 a month.
     
  20. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

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    haha g1
     

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