Did anyone receive the "Advisory Panel's" Roamio offer?

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  1. Feb 6, 2014 #541 of 661
    wtherrell

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    RoPro received today, set up, cc & TA paired with TWC via their self-install hotline. All 6 tuners working. Could not do a season pass from guide. (is that normal?) Streaming works extremely well. Ethernet / moca connection worked during set-up but now fails. Persistent C133 error all evening. Problem must be at Tivo ' s end. All my other network connections & Internet are functioning. Will check it out in the morning.

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  2. Feb 7, 2014 #542 of 661
    waynomo

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    You only want to have one tour of connection. I just set my RoPro up and only used MOCA. I got that from reading elsewhere here.
     
  3. Feb 7, 2014 #543 of 661
    wtherrell

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    Bummer : Time Warner Cable Tuning Adapter breaks Moca. On-board Roamio Moca will not work when the tuning adapter is put into the circuit.

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  4. Feb 7, 2014 #544 of 661
    joestan

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    Just do not use the running adapter pass thru. Use a splitter with outputs to the tuvo and the TA,
     
  5. Feb 7, 2014 #545 of 661
    wtherrell

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    Works! Thank you.

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  6. Feb 7, 2014 #546 of 661
    Ziggie

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    BB, did your TiVo ever arrive? :confused:
     
  7. Feb 8, 2014 #547 of 661
    weldon

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    My new Roamio Pro arrived and setting up was pretty easy. I followed the onscreen guide and inserted the cablecard when it asked. I was able to pair very quickly by calling the special number the rep gave me when I picked up the cable card at the service center. Pretty good experience overall.

    The Roamio is much faster than my Premier (original). Loving it so far.

    As part of the upgrade they also gave me $99 lifetime on my Premiere, so I'm keeping that for a second room.
     
  8. Feb 8, 2014 #548 of 661
    lgnad

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    I'm still waiting on my Pro... ordered on the 31st, now it says its coming Monday.

    UPS Ground sucks! :thumbsdown:

    Tivo should use Amazon for warehousing/shipping!
     
  9. Feb 8, 2014 #549 of 661
    Tivo II Jack

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    I didn't even think this string would still be active until I received an email notice today. I looked around and managed to totally confuse myself. I got my Roamio just last Thursday and set it up pretty quickly. I am a Time Warner subscriber in Brooklyn, NY.

    First MOCA. The instructions say to Connect an Ethernet cable from your home network to the Ethernet port on the Roamio Pro. The way I understand this is that I connect an ethernet cable from the Roamio to my router and go to Use this DVR to create a MoCA network.

    Then, once the MoCA is setup, I remove the ethernet cable. Do I have that right?

    Next is the tuning adaptor. I see notes here stating that with TW, there are problems with the TA and MoCA. I saw a note saying to bypass the TA with a splitter. Not sure what any of this means because of what happened when I set up last week.

    My Roamio Pro was recording all my season passes with no problem except that one single cable channel was not recording. I went to that channel live and there was a notice that I wasn't receiving that channel.

    I have the Roamio and a Series 3 box stacked and I had moved all the connections from the Series 3 to the Roamio...I thought. Turns out the USB cable from the tuner was still plugged into the Series 3.

    That means that for several days, the Roamio had no USB connection to the TA and yet it was still recording EVERYTHING except that one single channel. As soon as I moved the USB cable, that channel was fine also.

    I know I am rambling a bit but how necessary is the TA? When I first got the Series 3 in 2009, for reasons of my own, I used it for several months without a cable card or TA. I remember I had some problems, but i was able to record most channels.
     
  10. Feb 9, 2014 #550 of 661
    BigJimOutlaw

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    No. If the Tivo is creating the moca network, it stays connected to ethernet.

    The moca signal doesn't pass-through the TA, so you connect the TA as shown to avoid the TA from blocking the moca:

    [​IMG]

    Depends on whether any channels you watch are on the switched digital video system your cableco uses. You won't get those channels without it.
     
  11. Feb 9, 2014 #551 of 661
    BlackBetty

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    It did! About 30 minutes later. Was starting to get worried.

    I love the new roamio pro and mini! Now time to sell my old gear.
     
  12. Feb 9, 2014 #552 of 661
    Tivo II Jack

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    OK, that is very clear and easy to do.

    Not so much this one. Waynomo said he has his connected via moca "ONLY". I figured that meant without cables. Last night I went into Network Settings and tried Use this DVR to create a moca network. Error message said I was not connected to the internet. I then connected an ethernet cable from the Roamio Pro to my router and seemed to create the moca network without a problem. I then disconnected the ethernet cable and tried several things, none of which worked.

    Before I forget, at some points I was asked to enter certain information including network passwords and I entered all I was asked for.

    I tried Connect to the Tivo Service now and it didn't connect. I tried to transfer a recorded show from the Series 3 to the RoPro and it was shown in my To Do list but never started the actual transfer.

    I eventually went back into Network settings and changed back to wireless and the above problems disappeared. I am not new to Tivo, but I never even heard MoCA until the past few days, so color me bright red novice in this area.

    One thing I don't understand is that everything I saw about MoCA said it worked using existing 75 Ohm wiring. If so, why do I need the ethernet cable to remain connected?

    Right now I am recording as well as transferring recordings that I don't want to interupt, but once the RoPro is idle, I will insert the cable splitter into the mix to remove the TA from the MoCA circuit. For all I know, that is all I am missing from this equation.
     
  13. Feb 9, 2014 #553 of 661
    wtherrell

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    If you can't plug the Roamio into router via ethernet cable, You need a Moca adapter plugged into your router to get the Internet. Then connect a coax from the adapter to the cable modem to feed the Internet info onto the coax system. The Roamio can then connect to Internet through the coax via its internal Moca. If you CAN plug Roamio into your router, then the Roamio acts as the Moca adapter and feeds the Internet connection onto the coax where it can be used by other coax connected devices.

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  14. Feb 9, 2014 #554 of 661
    Tivo II Jack

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    OK, the ethernet cable I used last night is not long enough to reach the RoPro so I have to either get a longer cable or move the RoPro. I can do either one, but bear with me one more time because, as I said, this Moca is brand new to me.

    What will it allow me to do that I can't do now? I saw the word "FASTER" in one thing I read about Moca and I was hooked. As far as Tivo and Computers go, I ALWAYS feel the need for speed.

    I am going through all this and I don't even know what Moca will do for me.
     
  15. ncfoster

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    The primary purpose of MoCa is convenience (not having to run an Ethernet cable to inconvenient locations). I believe all of the Tivo MoCA implementations are version 1.1, which is capable of 175 Mbps. I don't understand precisely how everything is implemented, so someone else can probably tell you more. Before I got my Roamio and Mini, I was thinking about trying it out, but since I had gigabit Ethernet readily available, I used that, and it seems perfect.
     
  16. BigJimOutlaw

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    Very simply, moca is just ethernet over coax. It's faster than wireless, but not as fast as ethernet itself. It's more than fast enough for DVR/Mini streaming and transfers, though.

    It's an option where running ethernet is not practical or desirable. (e.g. the Roamio, Minis, and router are on opposite sides of the house or on different floors or something).

    There are 2 ways to create a moca network... either the Plus/Pro creates it, or you have a moca adapter connected to the router to create it.

    When the Plus/Pro creates it, an ethernet run to the router is still necessary, and you select "use this DVR to create etc..."

    When a moca adapter creates it, all the Plus/Pro needs is the coax. Select just "moca" from the network settings and it should work.
     
  17. Tivo II Jack

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    I started out here feeling confused, but now I am shooting polar bears in the jungle like the people whose plane crashed on that weird island a few years ago. This will either bring it all together or create total chaos.

    Above was posted to a person who I think had a moca AND an ethernet connection in place. It prompted me, along with on-line Moca instructions, to post the following.

    Then...

    ...the above Big Jim response made me think I needed to keep the ethernet in place to maintain a Moca connection. Now I realize he meant that once the Moca connection is created, "it stays connected to the internet" (not ethernet).

    Another indicator that ethernet cable is no longer needed after Moca has been set up.

    I feel the need for speed.

    Bottom line. I connected the RoPro to my router with an ethernet cable and used the RoPro to create my Moca network. It seemed to complete without a problem so I thought I was good to go, but it still isn't working. As I said in an earlier note, after setting Moca up and removing the ethernet cable, I attempted to Connect to the Tivo service and it failed. I also tried transfering a recorded show and it was shown in my To Do list, but never actually transferred until I changed my Network settings back to wireless.
     
  18. BigJimOutlaw

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    What I typed is correct. When the Tivo is creating the moca network, it still needs an ethernet connection. If it doesn't have it, the Tivo has no way of connecting to the home network or internet. The Tivo itself is the means by which the moca devices connect to your network. If you remove the Tivo's connection to the network, nothing's going to work.

    If moca isn't functioning as it should (with ethernet), it often means coax or splitters in particular need to be checked. Make sure they're robust enough (at least 1000 MHz) and not too old.
     
  19. ncfoster

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    Maybe you posted this at the outset, but perhaps we should go back to square one. What are you trying to accomplish?

    If you are trying to use MoCA to get connectivity to a Mini or a secondary Tivo unit, then leave the Ethernet in place, because the Tivo Roamio is creating the MoCA network (which is an extension of your local network in general).

    If you are trying to use MoCA to connect your primary/only Roamio, then you need a MoCA adapter connected at the router to create the MoCA network, to which your Roamio can connect, instead of a standard Ethernet connection.
     
  20. waynomo

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    Disclaimer here: I am new to the RoPro and MOCA.

    What BigJimOutlaw states doesn't make sense to me. My RoPro is working fine with only a coax cable MOCA connection. Based on what I read elsewhere in these forums I never even connected an Ethernet cable.

    Everything setup extremely easily. The one very small hitch was the first time the RoPro tried to connect to the network via MOCA it was unsuccessful. I received an error message which gave me some instructions. I ignored those and tried to reconnect again and this time it was successful. It took maybe about an extra minute.

    We are on FIOS and I have the Actiontec router with built in MOCA.
     

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