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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Gunnyman, Dec 4, 2019.
It's a losing game, knowing you could be one-upped by the theme from Perfect Strangers...
Enterprise took too long to get off the ground. The first two seasons were relatively "meh", but the third season was a complete change with the 4th season improving on that. Unfortunately by that time people got turned off and it couldn't pick up the viewers they lost. It was a sad way to go given the way the third and fourth seasons were so much improved.
For me, I was turned off by a few things right off the bat, and I never warmed to the show enough to pay it much attention after that:
- When they announced the era the show was set in, I was expecting a ship far more rudimentary than what we got. I was expecting something more "submarine" feeling, with very cramped corridors and cabins, people having to duck and weave around low hanging objects, etc. What we got felt not far off of the ships of the Next Gen era to me.
- I also wasn't thrilled that they called it Enterprise. Several times in Trek, they had depicted all the major ships named Enterprise, and this NX-01 version was nowhere to be found. They could have named it anything else and maintained canon; calling it Enterprise just seemed kind of, I don't know, lazy, like someone at Paramount decided that Star Trek = Enterprise, despite having just finished two 7-season Star Trek shows that weren't about ships named Enterprise.
- The stupid decontamination chamber seemed like an excuse to show people stripping down to their skivvies smearing gel all over each other.
- Pouring yet another female lead character into a catsuit.
The decontamination chamber absolutely was, it seemed to me, an attempt to get some flesh into the show, which I always thought was kind of funny production-wise: an attempt for ratings? But then, I'm also reminded that William Shatner sometimes went shirtless.
My feelings for Enterprise=feelings for Voyager=feelings for The Orville. It's all the same sameness, and the formula simply doesn't work for me as well as it did back in the 90s. I remember following and watching every week- but it wasn't on the edge of my seat. I remember milquetoast season finales, that didn't leave me craving for the next season. I didn't hate ENT, and I did like it's 4th and final season most of all, but I never revisit it. Never re-watch it.
DS9 was my favorite. (followed by TNG Seasons 3-5) And it was because DS9 did it so differently (serialized stories, character arcs, recurring side characters that were as popular as the principals, and tremendous world-building) was why I love it so much above all other Trek iterations.
But it spoiled me forever.
The decon gel scenes felt more like fanservice than the typical token gratuitous naughtiness that always been a part of Star Trek. Everything they couldn't get away with Jeri Ryan in Voyager- they tried with Jolene Blalock.
Agreed, those scenes were obvious and unnecessary. At this point even having a dancing green Orion slave girl sashay through ought to be reconsidered. (Speaking of which, I recently learned that the TOS OSG was Yvonne Craig, a.k.a. Batgirl! I was too young to make the connection at the time.)
You are not alone... I really liked Enterprise...
Funny thing... I was (am) a huge fan of the original series...I watched all of TNG...I watched all of Voyager... Yet I have not watched a single episode of your favorite series DS9!
I don't know why... I think I was getting inundated with stuff to watch, and there was just so much going on in my life at the time... That, and I think I was getting over loaded on Star Trek content... Wasn't DS9 running alongside in a parallel with Voyager?
I guess I really should binge watch some DS9...
I liked Enterprise, but I seem to recall that the threads on TCF were not particularly friendly in that regard. Feels like forever ago, but I vaguely remember avoiding the threads so people wouldn't "yuck my yum".
Yeah I avoided it when it aired but I gave it a try and was pleasantly surprised.
I liked Enterprise, and I agree that it got better as it went along. Season 4 was excellent, and I was really bummed when it got cancelled.
DS9 overlapped with TNG for a year, then two years after DS9 began Voyager premiered.
In addition to Trek overload and some press/fan screeds on the un-Roddenberry aspects of DS9 discouraging new viewers, in many markets the scheduling was screwy as it bounced around time slots in syndication. The creation of UPN about halfway through played a role in that. (10 years later, UPN was combined with The WB to make The CW. Gotta love all those initials.)
Enterprise was also on UPN, but its struggles are more easily ascribed to the first three seasons' creative direction.
I think I made it through 4 episodes when it originally aired. Just didn't like it. And yeah, the theme was absolutely horrible.
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Had the show made it to season 5, one of Enterprise's VFX artists had designed a refit of the hero ship to bring it closer to the Constitution class from TOS.
It's the biggest reason I wish the show hadn't got cancelled in 4.
I think it started out good. But for the last season or two, they blatantly sexualized Jolene Blalock's character to absurd levels. Yes, she was attractive and had a nice figure. But the show could've been renamed "Jolene's Bare Torso", since that seemed to be the focus. Maybe they were after the hormonal teenage crowd. I don't know.
I'm not really a sci-fi nerd, so the pop song theme didn't bother me. I kind of liked it. Not every show like this needs to be scored with over-the-top orchestral tracks.
Ug. I already thought it looked too modern for what was supposed to be Earth first warp capable starship; a century or so of design iterations before the Constitution-class of TOS. Making it look so much more like a Constitution just seems wrong. (It'd be one thing if a design sketch of something a little like that showed up in the show as a possible improved design; that might be a fun little thing to throw to the fans. But actually adding the Constitution lower hull as a refit NX-01 that the same crew is flying around would bug me)
 ignoring Zefram Cochrane's test vehicle from First Contact and whatever follow-on short ranged experimental designs they went through before the, apparently still experimental (based off the null designation) NX-01 Enterprise.
That was my main issue with Enterprise. It was a prequel whose writers wanted it to be a sequel. I mean they had the Borg in one episode which was ridiculous. Granted they had a semi-plausible explanation for them being there, but the Borg shouldn’t have been in Enterprise.
It's science FICTION. They can have WHOEVER they want. It's THEIR made-up world.
They can, but it showed lack of imagination. They basically said “people like the Borg, let’s put them in Enterprise”, without considering the impact of what that means for a prequel. That’s one of the reasons the earlier episodes weren’t that good.
I actually liked, from what I recall, the Enterprise incorporation of later events, prequelling the exposition in later series.
I've been rewatching it sometimes as part of the all-Trek lineup on H&I (an OTA subchannel). This is stupid, of course -- it's on multiple streaming services that I already subscribe to, without commercials and in HD, and the TiVo even offers to redirect me there if I pull up the info. And sometimes I'll do that, when I get impatient with the commercials. But I never start watching it on streaming. There are always so many other things there... but if I'm on "regular" TV, and flipping channels, I can easily decide it's the best thing on at the time. Old habits.