Deadliest Catch 2011 OAD 2010 King Crab Season

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by pmyers, Apr 13, 2011.

  1. Bob Coxner

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    I doubt the crew pay is divided equally. The deckboss must get a higher percentage and the same goes for the engineer. We know the greenhorns get less. There was also a mention of a "relief captain" (such as Keith's brother Monte on Wizard) and they must get more.
     
  2. JFriday

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    I know there was a lot of hate for the Hillstands partly because of the fight a couple seasons ago. Could it be he really knew what an ass Keith was all along?
     
  3. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    I had no idea how much of an *ss Keith is until this season.
     
  4. tripmac

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    I have noticed it in the past, but I guess I did not think about it. Now I find myself fast forwarding thru his parts. Other than the shoving the camera guy. I understand rules on the ship, but someone needs to let Keith know that the first rule should be don't be an *ss.
     
  5. Frylock

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    I also doubt it is an even split. Greenhorns also seem to get a set wage, and not a percentage. That's one of the benefits of moving up, because you then get "a full share".

    I was surprised how low the Northwestern was. Normally their payouts are at or near the top.

    And seriously Keith, the cameraman is a Discovery employee. Not your employee. He's not your gopher. You can ask him to make coffee, but to expect him to? Wow. Why anyone works with him is beyond me...
     
  6. pmyers

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    I do agree, but I have heard that the Discovery crew is expected to help with the non-fishing activities including making meals and stuff like that. But you still can't treat a person that way.

    I liked Keith's comment after the altercation: "Maybe my anger from the lousy pots is starting to bubble up"...or something like that. You think so Keith?!?
     
  7. nataylor

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    Yes, greenhorns typically get a half-share. Those other positions likely come with a salary paid out of the other 70% of net profit.
     
  8. Ment

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    Greenhorns on the highest paying ship makes more than full share guys on the lowest? If I were a CM guy it'd be adios a long time before Freddie moved on.
     
  9. snowjay

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    Technically what Keith did was battery, he had zero right (no consent, not self defense - the camera guy never touched him) to put his hands on the camera guy and pretty much knock him down. Keith is going to do that to the wrong person someday and get his ass handed to him. I hope they get that on tape. :D
     
  10. nataylor

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    I think that's why there is a lot of competition to get on certain boats, and why deck hands move around a lot. Of course crab isn't the only thing these boats fish for. Some deck hands will be on the boat for many different seasons over the course of the year. So a bad crab season can be partially offset by some good cod fishing.

    And at least when it comes to crab, the deck hands are going to have a rough idea of what they'll make. They know what kind of share of the overall quota the boat will have and a rough idea how much that share is worth.
     
  11. jeepair

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    The camera guy on the Wizard had lots of self control. Wish he just twisted his body a little this way or that way and accidentally trip Keith and land on top of him. lol.

    It appears that Keith knows he has an issue but so far it appears he hasn't done anything about it yet.

    Whatever salary each member gets, they deserve it. Not many people could work that schedule 24 hrs a day for multiple days in a row. That 8 weeks would be almost like 24 weeks in real time for a normal 8 hour workday person.
     
  12. paracelsus

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    For the ships hosting the Discovery cameramen, do they displace extra crewmen? Do normal (non-televised) crab vessels run two crews of workers to do these around the clock shifts or at least have some shift replacements? It's certainly a hard life either way, but it seems like if you've got a boat that can house, for example, 10 crew members - using 2-3 of those spots for Discovery people would limit the number of workers you can have on board (and increase the stress drama).
     
  13. WhiskeyTango

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    A quick analysis of the final numbers:

    Total Weight (lbs):
    Wizard 1,314,000
    Kodiak 1,108,000
    NorthWestern 780,000
    Time Bandit 652,000
    Seabrooke 600,000
    Ramblin' Rose 310,000
    Cornelia Marie 300,000

    Deckhand Pay:
    Wizard $81,000
    Kodiak $70,000
    NorthWestern $46,000
    Time Bandit $72,000
    Seabrooke $40,000
    Ramblin' Rose $22,000
    Cornelia Marie $21,000

    Deckhand Pay Per Pound:
    Wizard $0.06
    Kodiak $0.06
    NorthWestern $0.06
    Time Bandit $0.11
    Seabrooke $0.06
    Ramblin' Rose $0.07
    Cornelia Marie $0.07
     
  14. rimler

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    Time Bandit pays the best and they have the most fun. You couldn't pay me $0.50 per pound to work for Keith.

    The other big factor would be days at sea. Some captains/boats are clearly more efficient than others.
     
  15. Gregor

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    I have seen Time Bandit in a couple of other documentaries on Alaska fishing, one was herring and I forget the other one. Time Bandit's role in herring fishing was offload the smaller fishing vessels and haul the fish to a processor.
     
  16. pmyers

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    Interesting numbers! I do wonder if the payout for the TB is much higher simply because that boat is paid off, like we were talking about earlier. Definitely seems that way.
     
  17. Hank

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    I thought we were done with this? I think we showed pretty well above that that's not the case and it doesn't work that way. Besides, do you know the mortgage status of the rest of the boats?

    What if I'm a boat owner with a boat that's 100% paid off, and under your scenario, I'm paying my deck hands better than any other boat because of that fact? Then I decide to mortgage the entire boat to raise money because of my really bad gambling habit... and therefore start paying the same deckhands the lowest amount in the fleet for the same amount of crab fishing? Like I said before, it makes no sense to make the deckhands pay for equity in the boat. Equity payments are not overhead and are not taken out of the deckhands pay. It's taken out of the fixed percentage of the haul for the boat/boat owners. In addition, the deckhand pay is divided by the number of deckhands. If the TB has one or two less crew to pay, they rest of the crew is going to make that much more per share.
     
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    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you showed anything, and in fact, your example helps prove my point that they can afford to pay their people more simply because they have less overhead.
     
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    Don't take my word for it:

    It's just not how good business works. I'm done here.
     
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    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    The TB's crew seems to be the same size as the other boats...

    Not sure why it's so out of line to think that as a captain, if I have no loan to pay for and therefore less overhead, that I could afford to give up some of my profit and pay my workers more (and to possibly attract better workers).
     

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