Deadliest Catch 2011 OAD 2010 King Crab Season

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  1. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

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    makes sense to me...the less overhead that has to be paid out means more money for everybody, including the crew.

    I would think the lack of a boat payment would mean each of the crew (including the brothers) get a higher % of the haul.

    My question is why was Andy staying awake for 30+ hours while his brother is on board? Why put yourself through that and not jsut split duties and relieve each other? Why else both be there?
     
  2. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW TCF Club

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    Still doesn't make sense. Why would any deck-hand work on a boat that still has a huge mortgage payment which would significantly reduce their payout, versus a boat that's fully paid off (given both boats haul the same amount of crab and have similar variable costs)?
     
  3. snowjay

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    The more I see of Keith of more of an ass he becomes.
     
  4. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    Well there goes that theory. 81K for the Wizard.
     
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    Maybe the Wizard is now paid off? :p ...And Freddie won the lottery. If he staid on the CM he would have only made around 22k. Cha-Ching.

    Best part of the show was the firework war, awesome. Somehow I think TB was ready since they had a stash of fireworks ready. Either that or fireworks are how they usually celebrate end of seasons? Not sure if I would be out there without some sort of eye protection especially when they are firing right at each other. Good stuff! :D
     
  6. JLucPicard

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    Not to bog down this thread, but please set an apparently ignorant accountant straight...

    Just where does the money a boat 'owner' uses to pay for their boat come from if it doesn't come out of the money they get for selling their crab???

    If we're looking at a comparison between the Wizard and the Time Bandit (one still owes, the other fully paid), the Wizard actually hauled 1,314,000 lbs of crab this Opilio season and the Time Bandit hauled 652,000 lbs - about half of what the Wizard did. Would Keith still be going after so much if he didn't owe on his boat? Not sure what these guys take into account in determining what quota they go after.

    And to be fair, if Keith owes $2,000,000 on his boat (I seem to recall he either owes $2,000,000 or maybe more precisely, his boat was worth $2,000,000 when he got it), that whole amount does not come off the top of their take - just a portion of it to make the loan payment.

    I don't recall exact numbers at this point, but I believe the deckhands on the Wizard received an average of $81,000 and those on the Time Bandit earned $70,000. Not really 'night and day' numbers. And another conversation on After the Catch talked about the different working atmospheres on those two boats.

    Work at Home Depot, work at Lowes, work at Menards, or work at a mom & pop hardware store - my guess is that the work is similar in overall operation, among the 'big three' especially, and the money may be better than at the mom & pop store, but at the end of the day you're working at a hardware store and probably at the one that gives you the balance between money and atmosphere that you feel comfortable with. I'm guessing it's not that much different in principal if you're talking about crab boats.
     
  7. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW TCF Club

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    My guess would be that the boat owner gets a large percentage of the catch, and the boat payments aren't "overhead" taken off the top, reducing the deck-hands take.

    From the percentage the owner gets, they can either pay off the loan, or pocket the cash if they have no loan. The "boat" percentage is likely similar between each boat in the fleet. Variable costs, like fuel, food, supplies, licenses, non-durable equipment are absolute fees that come off the top before dividing it up among the boat and crew ("overhead"). So a smaller boat would have lower variable costs compared to a big boat (and less of a cut into the deckhands take), but the "boat" fee is comparable between the boats, so there's no unfair advantage for working on a boat with a mortgage versus working on a boat without one.
     
  8. pmyers

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    Wow...pretty wildly different numbers between boats this season. Anywhere from $20k each to $81k each!
     
  9. justen_m

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    The fireworks display put on at the end by the N'western (aimed at the Time Bandit ;) ) was very impressive.
     
  10. pmyers

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    :up::D
     
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    Well I'm sure they could work for whoever they wanted it they would give them a job
     
  12. nataylor

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    My understanding is that it's pretty standard for the crew share for crab fishing to be 30% of net profit, with the net profit being the gross profit (whatever they are paid for the crab), minus food, fuel, and bait/supplies. If you have a 6-person crew, that 30% gets divided 6 ways so each crew member gets 5% of the net profit.

    Boat payments, maintenance, captain's salary, etc. is paid from the 70% of the net profit that does not go to the crew.
     
  13. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW TCF Club

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    That's consistent with what I thought happened. So in effect, the mortgage on any boat does not affect the crew's cut of the catch.
     
  14. pmyers

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    Or a boat with smaller overhead could afford to give their crew a larger % of the profits to attract more/better workers.

    I guess the point is that we will never know because they don't give us those type of details.

    I will say that the Time Bandit does consistently seem to make more per deckhand than the other boats, from what I can recall.
     
  15. pmyers

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    btw....did we see Sig make Jake the offical Deckboss?
     
  16. justen_m

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    Yup, it appears so. I think he called him deckboss after the "knighting" ceremony. Sig definitely called Jake deckboss at some point.
     
  17. windracer

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    Yeah, I know some of that is for TV (they obviously had a helicopter ready for the aerial shots) because who keeps all those commercial-grade fireworks on a fishing boat?

    And yeah, it would suck to survive a tough fishing season like that and then lose an eye, or finger, or worse, in a fireworks battle. Geez.
     
  18. jeepair

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    After watching the behind the scenes for this years show, wow. I've said it before but Keith is an ASS. Talk about a power trip. How many times have we heard him say, WHO'S the Captain??!!? They didn't show him apologize so I'm guessing he didnt. Sheesh.

    The boats for Phil's ashes ceremony were CLOSE. On one of the shots it looked like the TB was about to hit the CM.
     
  19. paracelsus

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    Did they happen to say how much each deckhand on the CM made? I recall most of the others, but no mention of the CM - they were by far the lowest haul of crab this season (300,000 or so). I wonder if they can make it another year financially with the bad numbers...
     
  20. ClutchBrake

    ClutchBrake Pass the gravy!

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    Around $22K.
     

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