Dancing with the Stars, Season 28 (Fall 2019) -- spoilers allowed

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  1. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    James Van Der Beek just makes me smile when he dances--he just seems to really enjoy it. :)

    Having said that, I'd love to see the judges give a 15-minute, hands-on (physically) tutorial to the "stars" next week, on continuity and flow-through in dancing.* I realize that it's only been 2 weeks, but all the contestants need it.

    * And I mean, actually standing next to the contestants as they go through a dance, and physically moving their bodies for continuity where the contestants right now are stopping in their flow between major steps.
     
  2. David Platt

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    Rick Perry and Tom DeLay were on a few seasons ago. There was also Jerry Springer, but no way I'd count him as a politician only.
     
  3. DancnDude

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    Wow I don't think I've ever seen a star lose it so much as this episode when they were eliminated. That was not a good bottom two compared to others still on the show.
     
  4. TriBruin

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    I doubt Sailor had any thought coming in that she would be going home that night. The change to having the judge pick between the bottom two was supposed to minimize the chances that a good celebrity would go home before a bad one. But it doesn't work if both celebrities are good. I am also concerned that Ally, who is one of the leading contenders, was in the bottom two. I would really hate to see her go home. And, who the heck is voting for Sean and Karamo? Both are pretty bad. Are they voting for their partners (Lindsay and Jenna)?

    I don't think this new instantaneous voting is helping either. How can you vote until you have seen all the dances (yea, I get it, this is not about the dances, it is a popularity contest, but still.) If they want to stay with a single episode per week, go back to eliminating someone based on the previous week.
     
  5. David Platt

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    Also, it's only a popularity contest for half of the country. Those in western time zones don't get to vote. This new voting system is awful.
     
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  6. Mikeguy

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    As has been noted many times over, this shows the importance that a support voting coalition can make. The fact that Sean Spicer is still on the shows indicates a pretty powerful machine there--Sailor didn't have that.

    It still seems near-criminal to me to have a voting mechanism that excludes half the country, geographically--one would think that the show is being produced on the East Coast and not the West, which is spiting its own.
     
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    More influential than East coast vs. West coast vote is the Russian vote. I knew when I saw the new elimination procedure it didn't go far enough. I would have thought they should cut out viewers votes entirely until deep into the season (like The Voice). If they want to make a more incremental change, at least have the judges decide amongst the bottom three vote getters.
     
  8. TriBruin

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    This would all be fixed if the judges give real scores instead of artificially inflating them. Sean doesn't deserve 7s. But, because he is getting 7's the weighting of his judges vote versus say a James is minimal. Even though the audience vote is technically only 50%, it is more influential.
     
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  9. MikeekiM

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    A dance competition where Sean Spicer stays, and Sailor Brinkley Cook gets eliminated is not a fairly judged or fairly executed competition...

    That said, I stand by my previous statements...it's not meant to be fair... It's meant to keep the people that the audience votes for... If the most popular stay (all things being equal), the viewership should be optimized for advertisement sales...
     
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  10. DancnDude

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    I really wish they kept the half-point scores that they used during the all-star shows. It seems like everybody gets bunched up into the same exact scores and I think it's nice to have that separate out the scores a bit.
     
  11. TriBruin

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    So, another week, someone other than Sean went home. You could tell the judges wanted Sean to be in the bottom 2. IMHO, they way over graded some of the scores last night, likely to try and create a bigger divide between Sean and the rest of the pack.

    While Sean has way over stayed his welcome, it's not like Karamo was going to win the Mirror Ball.
     
  12. Mikeguy

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    The only thing I can say is, there must be a tremendously-strong lobbying group for him out there.* Or, Russians. ;)

    * Last night's result keeping him in was just ridiculous. As the result was the week before.
     
  13. DancnDude

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    And even though he looked like Frankenstein, he managed to make the dancing not look like either a dancer or a monster. It was just an awkward mess.
     
  14. MikeekiM

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    Ugh... Sean survives another week?

    I didn’t realize Sean was such a pop star!
     
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  15. Mikeguy

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    Yeah, this now--as revealed by the judges' faces--has just gone into way-sad land again. I haven't heard, but I assume that there is a concerted group campaigning for him? (I had heard as such at the beginning of the competition, but haven't followed up since.)

    James: such an artistic cartwheel in his contemporary dance--just wow. Tied with Lauren's salsa gyrations for best move of the night.
     
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    On the show a couple weeks ago Spicer was praising his wife and said she’s been the one calling around for votes. Obviously she’s doing a good job. She’s probably telling people that they don’t need to watch, just call in and vote. Meanwhile, people who can actually dance are going home
     
  17. Zephyr

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    So... what did you expect when ABC staged this stunt? What were all you fans expecting? A flogging as he departed the stage week 1 to the cheers of millions? Until someone at ABC puts a foot on the popular voting scale, this may continue with Sean moving on. Hopefully ABC has either learned that when you play games, you may come up a big loser!

    As far as dancing goes, imho, there's not one dancer in this group that comes close to past champions like Laurie Hernandez, Nicole Scherzinger and several more athletes.
     
  18. MikeekiM

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    You can tell that the judges are just waiting for Sean to get in the bottom two so that they can save "the other couple"...
     
  19. TriBruin

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    The problem is that, even though the judges vote is supposed to be 50%, they have compressed their scores to the point that there is very little margin between the dancers. That makes the public voting nearly 100% responsible. There was no way that Sean deserved 7s last night, probably deserved 6s. But, from some reason, they gave him 7s, even after essentially complaining about him still being on the show.

    But, there is obviously a huge group that is voting for him (or it is Russain hackers, you never know.)
     
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  20. gossamer88

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    Da boogie...
    Same thing was going on with Sarah Palin's daughter, no? Where there was a huge campaign that was keeping her on the show.
     

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